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Starting: Tue Sep 1 01:29:36 UTC 2009
Ending: Wed Sep 30 23:58:41 UTC 2009
Messages: 275

• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim content format decoding   Toni Alatalo
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Proposal: OpenSim StyleCop compliance   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   Stefan Andersson
• [Opensim-dev] Profanity filter   Olli Aro
• [Opensim-dev] Profanity filter   Olli Aro
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim.ini and the various config files   Ai Austin
• [Opensim-dev] Release version/svn from which the (RO)BUST config mechanism applies?   Ai Austin
• [Opensim-dev] 0.6.6 kind of working - except for inventory access issues - and "does not have root folder" errors   Ai Austin
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Ai Austin
• [Opensim-dev] UGRM Setup - Opensim.log not logging Opensim.exe   Ai Austin
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Ai Austin
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao
• [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid   Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao
• [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid   Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao
• [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid   Mic Bowman
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim.ini and the various config files   Len Brown
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Len Brown
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Len Brown
• [Opensim-dev] 0.6.6 kind of working - except for inventory access issues - and "does not have root folder" errors   Zonja Capalini
• [Opensim-dev] Profanity filter   Christophe, Jean-Charles Narbonne
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Christophe, Jean-Charles Narbonne
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Christophe, Jean-Charles Narbonne
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Serializing parcel data in OARS (was Re: [Opensim-commits] [OpenSim Git Master Repository] master branch updated. r/10596)   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Serializing parcel data in OARS (was Re: [Opensim-commits] [OpenSim Git Master Repository] master branch updated. r/10596)   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Load OAR and on_rez   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] creating some Asset   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Proposal: OpenSim StyleCop compliance   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] could a wiki admin delete these pages?   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim Inventory Archives (IARs) feature now experimentally available in OpenSim trunk   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim defaults now ODE and Meshmerizer   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT: justincc now a freelance OpenSim consultant   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] [OpenSim Git Master Repository] master branch updated. r/10793   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim get frame statistics   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.6.7 release candidate 1 ready for testing   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Justin Clark-Casey
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dave Coyle
• [Opensim-dev] could a wiki admin delete these pages?   Dave Coyle
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Dave Coyle
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim-Commits question   Sean Dague
• [Opensim-dev] hopefully a fix for test build fails   Sean Dague
• [Opensim-dev] The return of short version numbers (as tags)   Sean Dague
• [Opensim-dev] Proposal: OpenSim StyleCop compliance   Sean Dague
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Huan Dau
• [Opensim-dev] Exception: System.IO.FileNotFoundException:   Huan Dau
• [Opensim-dev] Can not login in Grid mode   Huan Dau
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim.ini and the various config files   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim.ini and the various config files   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] Working config using the new connector architecture?   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] Working config using the new connector architecture?   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] Working config using the new connector architecture?   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Dickson, Mike (ISS Software)
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Shack Dougall
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Shack Dougall
• [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid   André Filipe
• [Opensim-dev] Avatar Problem   André Filipe
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim Prims   André Filipe
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim get frame statistics   André Filipe
• [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid Problems   André Filipe
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Jason Fisher
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Jason Fisher
• [Opensim-dev] Got site back up   Jason Fisher
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Paul Fishwick
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Paul Fishwick
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Paul Fishwick
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Paul Fishwick
• [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?   Paul Fishwick
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] The return of short version numbers (as tags)   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] The return of short version numbers (as tags)   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim content format decoding   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] Exception: System.IO.FileNotFoundException:   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Frisby, Adam
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Kyle G
• [Opensim-dev] Proposal: OpenSim StyleCop compliance   Joshua Garvin
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Joshua Garvin
• [Opensim-dev] Help: Frozen Avatar   Thomas Grimshaw
• [Opensim-dev] WG: Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Ralf Haifisch
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSimulator.org Wiki Editor Upgrade!   Ralf Haifisch
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Kyle Hamilton
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim.ini and the various config files   Chris Hart
• [Opensim-dev] 0.6.6 kind of working - except for inventory access issues - and "does not have root folder" errors   Chris Hart
• [Opensim-dev] help needed with MSSQL and NHibernate   Chris Hart
• [Opensim-dev] creating some Asset   Daniel Herzog
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim content format decoding   Shun-Yun Hu
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim content format decoding   Shun-Yun Hu
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Hurliman, John
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Hurliman, John
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Hurliman, John
• [Opensim-dev] 0.6.6 kind of working - except for inventory access issues - and "does not have root folder" errors   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options and JHurliman   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] AssetServer.exe and InventoryServer.exe have been removed   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   James Stallings II
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Nebadon Izumi
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Nebadon Izumi
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   Nebadon Izumi
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSimulator.org Wiki Editor Upgrade!   Nebadon Izumi
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Nebadon Izumi
• [Opensim-dev] Can not login in Grid mode   Nebadon Izumi
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Robert A. Knop Jr.
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Robert A. Knop Jr.
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Robert A. Knop Jr.
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Robert A. Knop Jr.
• [Opensim-dev] Simpler configuration files   Mircea Kitsune
• [Opensim-dev] 0.6.6 kind of working - except for inventory access issues - and "does not have root folder" errors   Charles Krinke
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options and JHurliman   Charles Krinke
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Charles Krinke
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   David W Levine
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   MW
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.6.7 release candidate 1 ready for testing   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Mark Malewski
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   Fly Man
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Fly Man
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   Fly Man
• [Opensim-dev] Simpler configuration files   Fly Man
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Fly Man
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Robert Martin
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Robert Martin
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Robert Martin
• [Opensim-dev] AssetServer.exe and InventoryServer.exe have been removed   Ryan McDougall
• [Opensim-dev] Naali UI Mock-up Contest   Ryan McDougall
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Ryan McDougall
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Ryan McDougall
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Ryan McDougall
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Proposal: OpenSim StyleCop compliance   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] AssetServer.exe and InventoryServer.exe have been removed   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] UGRM Setup - Opensim.log not logging Opensim.exe   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim 0.7 Release Candidate with ALL working OpenSim Modules   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] Simpler configuration files   Melanie
• [Opensim-dev] The return of short version numbers (as tags)   Teravus Ovares
• [Opensim-dev] Problem with new installation   Teravus Ovares
• [Opensim-dev] Problem with new installation   Teravus Ovares
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim Prims   Teravus Ovares
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   Teravus Ovares
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   Jani Pirkola
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Load OAR and on_rez   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] The return of short version numbers (as tags)   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] The return of short version numbers (as tags)   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] OpenSim defaults now ODE and Meshmerizer   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] lslc project   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Dr Scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Changes to the OpenSimulator website   Impalah Shenzhou
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   John Sheridan
• [Opensim-dev] Mono minimum version bump   Snowdrop Short
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Daniel Smith
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Daniel Smith
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   Dahlia Trimble
• [Opensim-dev] OpenSim content format decoding   Dahlia Trimble
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Dahlia Trimble
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Jeroen van Veen
• [Opensim-dev] ConsoleClient -pass option   Jeroen van Veen
• [Opensim-dev] Load OAR and on_rez   Alan M Webb
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Colin B. Withers
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   Colin B. Withers
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   Dezso Zoltan
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   dz
• [Opensim-dev] Problem with new installation   clive gould
• [Opensim-dev] Solution to frozen avi problem   clive gould
• [Opensim-dev] Help: Frozen Avatar   clive gould
• [Opensim-dev] Help: Frozen Avatar   clive gould
• [Opensim-dev] Help: Frozen Avatar - the solution   clive gould
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   clive gould
• [Opensim-dev] versioning question   krtaylor
• [Opensim-dev] Hypergrid   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Profanity filter   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Working config using the new connector architecture?   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Working config using the new connector architecture?   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Working config using the new connector architecture?   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] lslc project   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Avatar Problem   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] AssetServer.exe and InventoryServer.exe have been removed   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] AssetServer.exe and InventoryServer.exe have been removed   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] help needed with MSSQL and NHibernate   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] new grid services   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   diva at metaverseink.com
• [Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core   nlin
• [Opensim-dev] 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)   nlin
• [Opensim-dev] Serializing parcel data in OARS (was Re: [Opensim-commits] [OpenSim Git Master Repository] master branch updated. r/10596)   dr scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Opensim Prims   dr scofield
• [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] [OpenSim Git Master Repository] master branch updated. r/10793   dr scofield
• [Opensim-dev] Tutorials   marcel verhagen
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Maróy Ákos
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Maróy Ákos
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Maróy Ákos
• [Opensim-dev] client API bindings?   Maróy Ákos

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