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Hello from Friti

Hi Makopoppo,

I just wanted to say thank you for doing so much to help improve the wiki. Now i don't feel so alone anymore :-)

Let's keep in touch about our ideas and plans for the wiki, so that we can help eachother do the things that need to be done :-)

P.S. Happy new year!

--Fritigern 19:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

You're very welcome:) Happy new year! -Makopoppo 00:39, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Trash bin

It's a nice idea, and does hide the title of the old pages. But the problem is that those pages still remain on the the wiki. This problem also exists when using the template, but the difference is that with the template, all the pages will be gathered under Category:To Delete, where they will sit until Justin can get around to killing them all off.

Redirecting to trash may therefore only lead to forever hiding them, and never actually getting them deleted.

--Fritigern 09:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for commenting. That's why I added a line to WikiTodo to peep in Special:WhatLinksHere/Trash_Bin. And, actually only the current active sysop is Justincc, and he is busy on codes, coming features and a lot of bugs added to Mantis every day. So we anyway cannot rely on immediate maintenance of Wiki and therefore we as users basically have to act against the problem by ourselves - do our best to hide those page as soon as possible.
Or, if you are interested in becoming sysop to solve the problem quickly, you might want to let Justincc know.
-- Makopoppo
Actually, I rather want Justincc to concentrate on OpenSimulator code base than solving unrelated article issues on this wiki like spams. I recommended you for sysop now. -- Makopoppo 11:35, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to Justincc, now we both have ops, so we can simply delete spam pages and images immediately. I've deleted every spams as much as I can find, and I'll check User Contributions of New Accounts to watch the activities of newly created accounts, I think which is the most efficient way of finding spams - as far as I see, all the spammers post one page and one image per account. Note that images will not be on the ToDelete list even if you add {{delete}} tag, so you anyway find them by Special:NewImages. Thanks -- Makopoppo 02:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Entry on development team page?

Hey Makopoppo. Do you think it would be a good idea to have an additional section for wiki sysops on the Development Team page? I'd really like to give you guys some recognition for the work that you're doing Justincc 14:24, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Cool:) Thank you for your consideration! I've added mine at the bottom of current page so that you will be able to move it after creation. -- Makopoppo 14:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Done - please adjust if necessary. I also let Fritigern know on his talk page - Justincc 15:26, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Language links in template

Hi Makopopo,

I was doing some maintenance on Заглавная_страница (Russian main page), and i can't figure out how to get the language bar to work properly.

I also don't know Russian, and i don't think you would know any either :-)

Anyway, could you have a look at that page? I am not sure if "language bar" is the correct term, but it's the bar just below the one with the buttons from {{template:quicklinks}}

--Fritigern 09:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I fixed and saved. {{MainPageQuicklinks}} and {{Quicklinks}} can have one argument which is the name of original(english) page. If argument not provided, the page itself will be considered as original(english) and language link won't appear. By the way, {{MainPageQuicklinks}} is used only for Main Page and its localizations, which has larger icons than {{Quicklinks}}. I almost forget to mention about the difference between {{Template:Quicklinks}} and {{Quicklinks}} - both are just the same and generally the latter is often used.-- Makopoppo 10:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Wow, that's pretty confusing. I should read this again after i have had some sleep :-) Thank you for fixing it though. It's been bugging me for some time now.
--Fritigern 10:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay, i've had some sleep, and i am starting to understand. Can we do away with {{Template:Quicklinks}} and just keep {{Quicklinks}}? Maybe we can create a bot for certain search/replace functions. I'm sure it will come in handy.
--Fritigern 22:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I fix it when I notice and there is another thing to change. I personally think it is not so important thing to fix around manually only for that, the page appearance won't changed. And if we do manually, Recent Changes page will become too complicated so it will be hard for the users to find the changes in the articles. If we have bot, it will be handy and bots won't dirt Recent Changes if it is properly set. Can you write a bot script? I want to do that but I have some articles to finish up soon. Thanks. -- Makopoppo 23:13, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I wish i knew how to write a bot, but i'm afraid i don't know how to do that. However, we may not have to wrote a bot ourselves. There may be one (or more) already available somewhere. We should look into this :-) --Fritigern 00:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

mokay... I created my own bot with DotNetWikiBot Framework and it works fine now. I'll run it fully after my bot account is added in bot group so that the wiki history won't dirt anymore(Justincc seems to be away today so I guess it will take a few days). For now, I'll make it remove "Template:" prefix and replace external links to internal one. -- Makopoppo 13:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Should the wiki be upgraded?

First off, it's awesome that you've got a bot working. I've looked into it, and it just confused me. Ah well... ^_^

Now, i have been looking at Special:Version and i was pretty shocked to see that the wiki (the MediaWiki software, that is) is still at v1.13, which came out in 2008. More recent versions have better protection against spam, auto-completion in search, and a lot more improvements that are either badly needed here, or desired.

What do you think, should we nag Justin and ask him to upgrade the wiki?

--Fritigern 16:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

At least not now! He's still recovering... It's rather joke but I personally don't think that it will improve our experience of writings and settings quite much. As far as I've seen from its release notes, the progress stays within server-side settings and the system against h@ckings. Actually, v1,13 has anti-spam feature - but we can't change server-side settings to enable it, since it is php variables in MediaWiki deploy, not changeable from wiki interface. -- Makopoppo 10:21, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
I'd love to upgrade the wiki but unfortunately it's a question of getting the time. It's not straightforward because there are various links and things mixed in (e.g. mantis). But it does need to be done. If there's a really compelling new feature or security fix then please do bug me about this Justincc 21:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Anytime you're available:) It is the thing to done to be better, but not in hurry. And I'll watch for any problems it will cause afterward. -- Makopoppo 23:53, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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