User talk:Justincc

Hi Justin, Is your email really 'AT googlemail DORT com' .. or should that be ... DOT com  ?  :)

--Mstram 14:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mstram. 'Tis a somewhat feeble attempt at a little extra bot confusing obfuscation :) - Justincc 14:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Status Page

Hi Justin,

You've deleted the the page Status, however, there are 42 other pages that linked there. Many of those pages had breadcrumbs referring to the status page. So what to do with those? Where should they link to now?

BTW, it's nice to know that you can delete pages. You may want to have a look at the To Delete category, there are many pages in there that should be reviewed and deleted.

--Fritigern 04:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Fritigern. From my brief look at it, many of the pages that the status page linked to were very out of date. The ones which aren't or have some semblence of usefulness or already linked elsewhere, I think. My intention was to come back on Friday and chase down the subsequently broken links, but I probably should have the left the page intact until then, at least (I'm too used to quickly editing the wiki because few other people are doing it!).

So I've restored the page for my now but my intention is still to come back and delete it on Friday (and chase down the broken links). But if you have any other ideas (e.g. whether it should be retained) then I'd be very pleased to discuss them.

Thanks for pointing out the "To Delete" category. I hope to get the time to go through that on Friday too.

Thanks for your editing btw - it's really nice to have someone else looking at this stuff too.

--Justincc 01:10, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a very common mistake for an editor, an even for a Wiki sysop to overlook the "What links here" link on a page that he/she wishes to delete. That link showed me that many osfunction pages link to Status

So what would i do about this? Hmmm... I am not sure. I would probably (because other pages depend on it in one form or another) do a complete rewrite of that page, making the info more current, though since i am basically just a "dumb end user" (tongue-in-cheek very much intended!), i wouldn't know the first thing of what the status really is.

As for my editing, it really started because i couldn't easily find the info that i needed at that time (i can't remember what it was, just that i couldn't find it ;-))

One thing that i really would like to see on the wiki, is more information in layman's terms. A lot of the documentation was written by devs, and i know that it can often be hard for devs/coders/techs to translate their jargon to something that non-coders can understand too.

One example of an article that i find confusing is Wifi, see also the discussion page of that article. Another one would be the one about NINJA_Physics.

...Which brings me to something that i hope you can find the time to look into. The wiki's search function doesn't seem to work properly. As in that i would enter "ninja" (all lower case), click "search", and expect to find the NINJA Physics article listed as one of the search results. Instead, it comes up with nothing. Even when searching for "NINJA Physics" (using the correct case), the search results remain empty. This happens with all other search terms as well. The "Go" button does work though, as long as the search term is entered with the correct case.

This search problem really is a problem, since it makes the wiki not searchable, and therefore makes it less useful for end users. OS is a complex piece of software, and it is not always 100% clear why things goes *beep* instead of *ding*, or how to do this or that... :-)

--Fritigern 02:24, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I had a look at the "What links here" for the Status page and I see what you mean. As far as I can tell, pretty much everything linked off this page is out of date or unmaintained. But it's too much of a Sisyphean task for me right now to clean up all the inbound links so I'll have to leave as is.

I went through the delete category and deleted all the pages except Wikistructure.

I agree with you about the information, but to be honest there's very few of the developers who write any kind of documentation at all. So even getting the tech heavy stuff is quite a rarity, let alone things more understandable by the layman.

The search on the wiki was recently updated by Teravus - it wasn't working at all before. So it might be worth leaving him a note about the current problems. He is also on IRC on and off.

--Justincc 00:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)