[11:06 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, everyone. A late lunch today delayed my arrival.
[11:08 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me grins
[11:08 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Great to see everyone
[11:09 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Lots of commits since last week, busy devs
[11:09 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Very true!
[11:09 AM] Ubit Umarov: Zzzz ZZzz Zzzz
[11:10 AM] Ubit Umarov: well most those commits where on webrtc
[11:10 AM] Ubit Umarov: we had a patch with come usefull things, so i tried to merge it line by line
[11:10 AM] Ubit Umarov: a patch on mantis
[11:10 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Multiple even
[11:11 AM] Ubit Umarov: then trying to make things work... with still minor sucess
[11:11 AM] Ubit Umarov: and for now target is ONLY non spacial parcels voice
[11:11 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Getting the parcel crossing to work
[11:12 AM] Ubit Umarov: the code seems still plagued by improper tasks based parelelism
[11:12 AM] Ubit Umarov: possible still race conditions and bad shared data sync
[11:13 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: or all of the above
[11:13 AM] Ubit Umarov: ofc no volume control or information
[11:13 AM] Ubit Umarov: because are not part of stock janus demo code
[11:14 AM] Ubit Umarov: but on ll specific private fork
[11:14 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: And to reiterate, it's part of core now, so forking Robert's module isn't going to help much, git clone opensim and work against that please, cause applying changes by hand is really time consuming
[11:14 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me nods
[11:15 AM] Ubit Umarov: well most opensim devs did just refuse to look to patchs unless they did merge nicelly
[11:15 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: We tend to try a bit harder than that, but it's mind breaking work at times
[11:15 AM] Ubit Umarov: but clear ppl spent many hours on that.. that should not be wasted :(
[11:16 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: yes
[11:17 AM] Ubit Umarov: laso made some changes to our libopenmetave OSD
[11:17 AM] Ubit Umarov: adding long as supported type
[11:17 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: There was also a fix for the httpclient stuff again, hopefully now working a little better
[11:17 AM] Ubit Umarov: like many things OSD as made only to support LLSD
[11:18 AM] Ubit Umarov: so long on it was converted to a binary array
[11:18 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I'm getting a bunch of warnings when compiling OS now. Still runs fine. Should I be concerned?
[11:19 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: 6?
[11:19 AM] Ubit Umarov: now it should be stored as long and only sent. received as binary array by LLSD serializers
[11:19 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: yeah
[11:19 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Those are just fluff
[11:19 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: k
[11:19 AM] Ubit Umarov: json does handle it a long
[11:19 AM] Ubit Umarov: well as json INTEGER
[11:20 AM] Ubit Umarov: sadly that is very undefined thing
[11:20 AM] Ubit Umarov: in some implementations that is at most 53 bits of data
[11:21 AM] Ubit Umarov: but seems that on the lib we use and the one janus uses, it is a 64bit int
[11:21 AM] Ubit Umarov: it the machine does support C type lono long
[11:21 AM] Ubit Umarov: lovely specs
[11:22 AM] Ubit Umarov: universal data formats, machine dependent...
[11:22 AM] Ubit Umarov: that wonderful thing done even witout help of AI.. imagine how it will be
[11:22 AM] Ubit Umarov: :p
[11:23 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: FS put in the handling for stun servers sent by region, thanks TJ
[11:23 AM] Ubit Umarov: yeah it os on master get repo
[11:23 AM] Ubit Umarov: but still no new beta
[11:23 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Version number got bumped so might been soon
[11:24 AM] Ubit Umarov: well yesterday there was no new beta :)
[11:24 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: There is now
[11:24 AM] Ubit Umarov: so webrtc is working if you stay still :p
[11:24 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Or set the parcel not to restrict it
[11:25 AM] Ubit Umarov: as you cross to parcels with restricted voice things tart to break
[11:25 AM] Ubit Umarov: our great code starts to close channels after creating them blablabla
[11:26 AM] Ubit Umarov: lets make everything paralell Oh Yeahhh
[11:26 AM] Ubit Umarov: ok sorry :p
[11:27 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: :)
[11:28 AM] Ubit Umarov: anywy fear stil a lot of work just to acheive the limited goals i told
[11:29 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Lots of code cleanup
[11:29 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Misterblue
[11:30 AM] Misterblue Waves: hello all... a bit late
[11:30 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Speaking of cleanup, still have to go through datasnapshot parts, but the search side is now mostly cleaned up
[11:30 AM] Ubit Umarov: ofc that is unrelated to voice :)
[11:30 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Getting mixed information from viewers on status of search, fixes going in while I was told it was legacy
[11:30 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: It's all a bit clunky
[11:32 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I did an experiment today, actually still running, pushing iars and oars onto owned threads, it's as colorful as you imagine it to be
[11:33 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: It's really funny, iars need scene, but oars don't xD
[11:34 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: should be opposite
[11:34 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Right, but nope
[11:35 AM] Ubit Umarov: yeah like oars do not same scenes
[11:35 AM] Ubit Umarov: clean those glasses ;)
[11:35 AM] Ubit Umarov: ...do not save...
[11:36 AM] Ubit Umarov: how is your viewer Joe ?
[11:37 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: holds out cracker
[11:37 AM] Jagga.Meridith @hg.zetaworlds.com: ow
[11:37 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Looks like our friendly neighbourhood t-rex just took out Cuga and Vincent.
[11:38 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Polly wants a cracker
[11:38 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me chuckles
[11:38 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Love it
[11:38 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Great to see you, Joe
[11:38 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: and Misterblue *grins*
[11:39 AM] Ubit Umarov: (trex whats to have hair like vincent.Sylvester)
[11:39 AM] Joe Magarac: Hello all. Still working on that impostor thing. Wrangling large numbers of assets on the SL side s a huge pain. That's it for this week.
[11:39 AM] Ubit Umarov: ( ofc he/she did not look to Gavin.. )
[11:40 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Haven't seen him in a while
[11:41 AM] Ubit Umarov: see. lots of fun Joe :)
[11:41 AM] Ubit Umarov: wel this new Hour does not help to be here
[11:42 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: time zone shifts
[11:42 AM] Ubit Umarov: still another meeting bc time sync
[11:42 AM] Ubit Umarov: bf
[11:42 AM] Ubit Umarov: well "time sync"
[11:43 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Oh, is EU not switched yet?
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: 'daytime savings??? sync'
[11:43 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: End of month
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: we always change on last sundays
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: of march or oct
[11:43 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: There is usually a difference of two weeks between north american and EU time changing.
[11:44 AM] Ubit Umarov: not when trump thinks it is time
[11:44 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: need to end the daylight savings nonsense
[11:44 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: or at least change at the same damn day
[11:44 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: yep
[11:44 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I take small victories
[11:45 AM] Ubit Umarov: actuall, on same day means all keep changing in a period of 24 hours
[11:45 AM] Ubit Umarov: lol
[11:46 AM] Ubit Umarov: a full day of anachy :)
[11:46 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me grins
[11:46 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Better than three weeks of trying to eat like a goose or pelican
[11:49 AM] Ubit Umarov: btw ll also uses a modied webrtc library, viewer side
[11:50 AM] Ubit Umarov: ll does not use webrtc.. they use their own thing just based on webrtc
[11:54 AM] Ubit Umarov: yeach
[11:55 AM] Ubit Umarov: that is public
[11:55 AM] Ubit Umarov: intead of doing a full fork of google code and add changes to it, they clopne it, then apply patch files
[11:56 AM] Ubit Umarov: fun suicidal approach
[11:56 AM] Ubit Umarov: and of they can pay github builder time to apply all that per build
[11:57 AM] Ubit Umarov: whatever.. their thing
[11:57 AM] Ubit Umarov: guess they had good reasons... coff coff
[12:00 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me smiles
[12:01 PM] Ubit Umarov: ok rl calls
[12:01 PM] Ubit Umarov: any other issue?
[12:01 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: Any last minute items for today?
[12:02 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: That hour went by fast today.
[12:02 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I need to head out.... thanks for the continuing webrtc dev work
[12:02 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Have a great weeke everyone (smiles and poofs)
[12:03 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: bye Cuga
[12:03 PM] Ubit Umarov: ..............
[12:03 PM] Ubit Umarov: .
[12:03 PM] Ubit Umarov: ( oops that was pixie )
[12:04 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: If there is another further I wish everyone a good rest of the week. Thank you for being here. see you again next week.
