[11:02 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Hello, everyone.
[11:02 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: Hello!
[11:02 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well at least cat is here
[11:02 AM] Jagga Meridith: everyth8hg ooks fine to me (xcept Andrew)
[11:02 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I came in with a blank cache
[11:03 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: i had to clear viewer cache.. and poff
[11:03 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Maybe a bad compile
[11:03 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: so you too came with a blank cache?
[11:03 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Don't think the commits could have broken it, they didn't touch anything related to that
[11:03 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well osgrid seems back
[11:04 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I've forgotten the keyboard shortcut for rebake.
[11:04 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: but guess maybe a bit unstalle for a while
[11:04 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I did a tex refresh on my avatar. Did that change my appearance?
[11:04 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: ctrl+R
[11:04 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: ok. Thought it was something with an R.
[11:04 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: wel this region does loop pretty bad now
[11:04 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: pff no idea
[11:05 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: Still loading textures for me, Andrew
[11:05 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: I rebaked, but not sure if you can see me
[11:05 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Lots of red on console from profiles module
[11:05 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I can see you Lyr
[11:05 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Andrew is very white
[11:06 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: You look good too, Gavin
[11:06 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I need more sun. :)
[11:06 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: Osgrid may be back but I never was able to make my IAR . Pissed off at them
[11:06 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: and someone's hair is sitting in an invisible chair
[11:06 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: and Jagga, Ubit, and Vincent
[11:06 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Ctrl-R is for always run.
[11:06 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Vincent has no hair
[11:06 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: Cuga's textures are loading for me
[11:06 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: but slowly
[11:07 AM] Jagga Meridith: OK, I was going to try my IAR later on, but I think I'd aready copied evweerything off
[11:07 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: everyone looks ok except Andrew's textures
[11:07 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: try alt+ctrl+R
[11:07 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: he has hair for me *grins*
[11:07 AM] Jagga Meridith: I moved to aviworlds full-time
[11:07 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Just tried that. I see myself ok so I can't tell if it changed anything.
[11:07 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: you may have things in viewer cache
[11:07 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Jagga and Cuga are invisible to me
[11:07 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I'd expect something on the console if the bake failed, but nothing
[11:08 AM] Jagga Meridith: humph, what'd I do to piss you off?
[11:08 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: cuga has head.. good enough :)
[11:08 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: /me chuckles
[11:08 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: he has head :-))
[11:08 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: it was so small I didn't notice
[11:08 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: Did you have rendering problems in past weeks? Nothing changed on my end
[11:08 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: your clothes are grey
[11:08 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: and your hair textures grey
[11:09 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Only updated to region to master dev, maybe bad compile or something, not impossible
[11:09 AM] Jagga Meridith: my shirt texture is nere so hopefully it renders before my body
[11:09 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: *shrugs* everything same as past weeks
[11:09 AM] Jagga Meridith: s/nere/new here/
[11:09 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: with viewers caches, hard to say when something gets broken
[11:09 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: maybe the issue is older, but we have all been fooled by our viewer caches
[11:10 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: that has happened to me before
[11:10 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I cleared mine when installing the latest FS beta a few days ago, but I been on here as well
[11:10 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Binary changed on sunday I think
[11:11 AM] Jagga Meridith: I'm trying to teach regular expressions people in platforms that don't have edit. they're liking it
[11:11 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: beta or nightly ?
[11:11 AM] Vincent Sylvester: beta
[11:11 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: im with 77610
[11:11 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Same
[11:11 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well seems it is texutes
[11:11 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: latest release for me, no new issues
[11:12 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I'm still on 76496 and everything and everyone looks fine to me.
[11:12 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I'll clear my cache after the meeting see what I see then
[11:12 AM] Jagga Meridith: 70368
[11:12 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: same here
[11:12 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: to me it looks like server side data corruption
[11:12 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ok and meshes
[11:12 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: seeing long lag for my chat to appear in local
[11:12 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: 77610
[11:12 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: 76495 which is the 7.1.11 release
[11:13 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I had the same with some of my meshes and they load in the same invisible manner, but they are hosed in the database and unrecoverabvle
[11:13 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: 7.1.12
[11:14 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: try rezz a new chair and see if it appears for us
[11:14 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: Next week, I'll be giving a keynote for a conference in Hawaii and won't be here. My 5th session this month *whew*
[11:14 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I just Tex Refresh on the round carpet we are on. It has always looked gray to me but now it has turned black.
[11:14 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: asset server might be sluggish or ISP routing
[11:14 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well the poor torture mice did show up for me meanwhi´le
[11:15 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I derendered it
[11:15 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: tons of commits this week
[11:15 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: Cuga just popped into focus
[11:15 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: I did more work on sqlite
[11:16 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: and Andrew has a collar and hair now *grins* Shoes appearing...
[11:16 AM] Jagga Meridith: Didn't there used to be a crouch?
[11:16 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I was a bit surprised that the older versions just all failed the same way on mac os
[11:17 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I expected at least some to work, but it basically requiring the last few
[11:17 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Jagga is just a wig in the middle of the room :-)
[11:17 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: I tried suggestions from Voincent and from Gasvbin
[11:17 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: sqlite 3.7.5 - segfaults during OS startup
- same result if using build target 10.15, 10.14, 15.4
sqlite 3.17.0 - OS runs without crashing but throws errors during sqlite operations. Unable to log in. (see attachment)
- same result if using build target 10.15, 12, 15.4
sqlite 3.39.4 - Same error as 3.17.0. Throws errors during sqlite operations. Unable to log in.
- same result if using build target 10.15, 12, 15.4
sqlite 3.43.2 - which comes with macOS 15.4 - Opensimulator starts up without errors
[11:17 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I nearly went cross eyed reading through the release notes
[11:17 AM] Jagga Meridith: (whines) I wanted to pet kitty
[11:18 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Cuga, I think the latest macOS update does it
[11:18 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: /me chuckles
[11:18 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: does what?
[11:18 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: it also killed a library used by the viewer, so Chromium doesn't work on the 2.9.x builds
[11:18 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: works on version 3 builds
[11:19 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: they simply removed some old support from the system
[11:19 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: ? confused
[11:19 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I think we may have to bite into the sour apple so to speak and use a whole different dylib for the arm things
[11:19 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Apparently it's also unstable on Pi
[11:19 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: the compon
[11:20 AM] Vincent Sylvester: So something on the arm stuff is tripping it up
[11:20 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: oh not loimited to apple arm64, Pi arm too... interesting
[11:20 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Yeah someone reported doing a docker image on Pi and it failed
[11:20 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: the component was built with a version of Xcode that had system 11.1 support, and they removed that support from Sonoma and Sequoia
[11:21 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: so the system just terminates it immediately
[11:21 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: system 10.11 support
[11:21 AM] Vincent Sylvester: So my thinking is perhaps in regards to arm may just have to build x86 and arm as separate libs arch specific
[11:21 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: but it compiles..
[11:21 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: and my testing was on arm64 only
[11:21 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: test versions
[11:22 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Compile and runtime are different beasts
[11:22 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: sure, but the system support isn't there at runtime
[11:22 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: Oh, so we use a more recent versio of sqlite for arm than other arches?
[11:22 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Basically
[11:22 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: and they also removed it from Intel
[11:22 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: 14.5 and 15.4 killed it
[11:22 AM] Vincent Sylvester: It would not go amiss to update the libs somewhat, but seems unless we want to latest arm will need its own
[11:23 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I'm not through the changelog to the point of knowing if the latest will work
[11:23 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Lots of boring reading that hurts my tiny brain
[11:24 AM] Vincent Sylvester: 3.39.4 was the last I got to before my head fell off
[11:24 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: so I guess a newver version must be built for it to run on 14.5 and 15.4 or higher
[11:24 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: but this was bound to happen anyway
[11:24 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ...
[11:25 AM] Vincent Sylvester: As nice as mulitarch libs are, when systems diverge it can be annoying
[11:25 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: 2025-04-15T18:23:24Z INFO #Texture# newview/lltexturefetch.cpp(1424) LLTextureFetchWorker::doWork : ONCE (348900th time seen): Texture not available via HTTP: empty URL.
[11:25 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: seems asssets cap is brokne
[11:26 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: that is the viewer log?
[11:26 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: yeap
[11:27 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I get a bunch of newview/llviewertexture.cpp(1031) LLViewerTexture::LLViewerFetchedTexture : Unsupported fetch type 2
[11:27 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Is it trying to use the direct asset fetch?
[11:28 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: did not got the asset cap url
[11:28 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Okay I definitely didn't mess with that
[11:29 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: and udp fallback is not working ofc
[11:30 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I only added a bunch of LSL stuff
[11:30 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Mesh# newview/llmeshrepository.cpp(1253) constructUrl : ONCE (1500th time seen): Current region does not have ViewerAsset capability! Cannot load meshes. Region id: 8d26a41e-933f-4ff6-8b0f-435ac836bcad
[11:30 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: this is what is logging
[11:30 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Well no wonder that fails then
[11:31 AM] Vincent Sylvester: It shouldn't be trying to use viewerasset cap
[11:31 AM] Vincent Sylvester: How odd
[11:32 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I mean technically it could, I think I have it enabled on the asset server, but I could never get the correct format for the viewer to actually read it
[11:32 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: not having problems here, meshes are loading
[11:32 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: andrew's textures are still white, thats all
[11:33 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I can try and relog
[11:33 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: reloiing, brb
[11:33 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: ☻ ⒽⓊⓇⓇⓎ ⒷⒶⒸⓀ ☻
[11:33 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: ok.
[11:34 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: That's odd. Why did it show that other string.
[11:34 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: wb, Gavin
[11:34 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: same result
[11:35 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Ubit Test is all white
[11:35 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: odd damm seems time related crap
[11:35 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: /me smiles
[11:35 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: actually the meshed load, but the textures don't
[11:35 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: im here with wingridprxy and see all
[11:36 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I have infected everyone with the bug attraction lol
[11:36 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: hehe
[11:36 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ,
'ViewerAsset':'http://88.99.95.177:17710/fdda6f12-20a7-4ae2-9be4-b8f307e52049'
,
[11:36 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: We're spawning ubits
[11:36 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: region did sent the url
[11:36 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: Ubot
[11:36 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well to this av
[11:36 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: /me grins
[11:37 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well not to retest i need to clear cahce again
[11:37 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: pff
[11:38 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: but yeha sounds a variant of viewers crap on teleports, specially hg
[11:38 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: the viewer still complains about urrent region does not have ViewerAsset capability! Cannot load meshes. Region id: 8d26a41e-933f-4ff6-8b0f-435ac836bcad
2025-04-15T18:33:49Z WARNING #Mesh# n
[11:38 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I did notice that as of late dotnet has a tendency to somehow uninstall itself, might be related though that would have prevented the region restart as well
[11:38 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: yeah but with the delay of gridproxy ubit test got it
[11:39 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I'd check the FS commits, but git just crashed
[11:39 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: dotnet uninstall?? you do have odd vodoo
[11:39 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: :p
[11:39 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: ubit textures loaded too
[11:40 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well as i said, seems viewers decided to fail to get or mess up caps
[11:40 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Vincent is wearing some corrupted mesh that sspikes out in all directions
[11:40 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Yeah I don't know how that happens either, possibly something to do with dotnet changing library folders
[11:40 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Only mesh I have is hair
[11:40 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: of vicent network is full of ghosts todau
[11:40 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: or..
[11:41 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: it moves when you type
[11:41 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: attached to an arm
[11:41 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Flag Armband
[11:41 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Those are prims
[11:41 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Plain prims
[11:41 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: looks completely messed up
[11:42 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: actually did the last time too
[11:42 AM] Vincent Sylvester: How is that even...
[11:42 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: loooking fine to me
[11:42 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I'll prep the sacrificial goat, you get the grapes this time
[11:43 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: :)
[11:43 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: oops
[11:43 AM] Jagga Meridith: my hair is a mesh, why is it visible
[11:43 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ubit test was a naked ruth ?
[11:43 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: maybe the new FS beta is triggering something weird? Im on release and not seeing issue
[11:43 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: We might want to have a few words about the code changes made this past week before we reach the top of the hour.
[11:43 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: it is for me now at broken osgrid
[11:43 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I am on my viewer and have the same issues
[11:44 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I'll give it a new compile after the meeting, maybe jenkins messed it up again
[11:44 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: with up to ancient code that is not FS
[11:45 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: There were quite a few commits made this past week. Mostly related to ll function.
[11:46 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: duhh things broken again
[11:46 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: As I said before I have seen the same type of behavior of some messes that had been rezzed in world, and the item in the asset table was completely corrupt
[11:46 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I did a compare on the lsl functions present in the api vs. what's on the wiki
[11:46 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I would hazard a guess that the commits that only mention a ll function are additions. It would be nice if the commit message actually stated a function was added.
[11:46 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I attributed it to database corruption
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: err this is running you god bans test vicent?
[11:47 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Nope
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: duhh
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well caps is really brokne on hg now
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Test @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well if not any tp
[11:48 AM] Vincent Sylvester: It also barfs on profiles
[11:48 AM] Vincent Sylvester: At least some, but weirdly not all
[11:48 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: wel if it does mess up caps.. then tons of ugly things happen
[11:48 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: abotu code changes.. yeah
[11:48 AM] Vincent Sylvester: The only two things missing from the code contrib is the return objects things and compute hash, both are bigger things that required a lot of extra code to function
[11:49 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: vicent did provide some patchs will some lsl functions
[11:49 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: i accept then changed, ofc :p
[11:49 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Ubit had fun cleaning them up :)
[11:50 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I just observed a number of ooopses
[11:50 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: llListFindListNext
[11:50 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I did notice that several commits were code provided by Vincent. A few extra words in the commit message would be helpful when trying to learn what was changed.
[11:50 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: duhh it where only 2 hmm or 3 oops
[11:51 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: :-)
[11:51 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: 2 and a bad merge :)
[11:51 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Creative commit messages are not our strong point
[11:51 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: llGetVisualParams
[11:51 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: No, but a simple "<function> added" would still be useful.
[11:51 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: this one maybe a bad idea..
[11:52 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: what was I thinking, and I am such a dweeb and so on would be more entertaining
[11:52 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: it just gets very low level numbers fromn avatar visual parameters
[11:52 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: not that easy to understandwaht they do
[11:52 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well a limited subset of all of them
[11:53 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I just put two and two together on that cause yeah no idea why anyone would need those things, but eh, it's one less thing to throw an error
[11:53 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: llGetHealth -- does not support objects and result for avatars is not comparablet to sl, possible
[11:53 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: llGetInventoryDesc
[11:54 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: for things on prim inventory...
[11:54 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: i also allowd some tps at to allow landing at z < 0
[11:54 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I briefly considered working out a way for objects to have health at least during runtime, but... all that extra memory...
[11:55 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: * mantis 9133 replace some z < 0 checks by < Constants.MinSimulationHeight (-100)
[11:55 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Yeah that's on me, when I pushed for that change I never checked if there were any sanity checks that would conflict with negative Z positions
[11:55 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: also added llGetSimStats
[11:56 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: and llHMAC
[11:56 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: but vicent try to do the sha224 is not that correct on that
[11:57 AM] Vincent Sylvester: There is a full implementation of sha224 in the compute hash at least
[11:57 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: he made a patch that soes sha224.. but fails to merge.. to there waiting
[11:57 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: also is a slow cpu thing..
[11:57 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I did send you one that should merge with master
[11:57 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: no ide a who every may want that
[11:57 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: idea.
[11:57 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: thats jsut ll waste of time
[11:58 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I have some idea why it may have ended up in there, but just guessing at that point
[11:58 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Was fun to try and figure out how to basically write that from scratch though since C# doesn't have a ready lib for that algo
[11:58 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ohh you call that oce of yours c# ?
[11:59 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: /ME RUNS AND HIDS
[11:59 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: :)
[11:59 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: hihihi
[11:59 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: brb
[11:59 AM] Vincent Sylvester: It's two implementations I had found, parts of those and then the byte order didn't work
[11:59 AM] Vincent Sylvester: So had to fiddle with that for two hours to make that work correctly
[11:59 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Ubit was nice enough to confirm it returned the correct data
[12:00 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: yeah some never got the memo about bigendian death
[12:00 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Way too much math for one day
[12:00 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: pff worried about this caps issues :(
[12:01 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Once that is merged I guess can fix that for llHMAC too
[12:01 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: guess for now just need to assume it is this region vodoo
[12:01 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Let's hope it is just jenkins making a mess :)
[12:01 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Not the first time a compile went sideways
[12:01 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: Is this region always on bleeding edge OS version?
[12:02 PM] Vincent Sylvester: I take master dev and apply some patches to it, but none touch asset things. The grid runs a custom asset server that is basically just a dumb mysql lookup for the data, nothing fancy, very crude and simple
[12:03 PM] Vincent Sylvester: The assets actually exist properly, they return data from it, just seems the viewers think they should ask the region as if it was viewer asset, which is a cap meant for viewers to directly talk to the asset server instead of the region
[12:03 PM] Vincent Sylvester: The formats between those are slightly different hence when the region replies to that cap it's malformed
[12:03 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: what part of it is a caps issue you missed? :p
[12:04 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: maybe a timing issue.. dunno
[12:04 PM] Vincent Sylvester: It's asking for a kebab inside a coffee shop basically
[12:04 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Odd that timing would cause it to see viewerasset as fallback though, weird
[12:05 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: well something did messup that cap ( if not more )
[12:06 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: if you login at osgrid
[12:06 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: you may noticed that your avatar was upgraded to a nice named female ruth
[12:07 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: they just did clean up the inventory folder entries
[12:07 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: and forgot to add the basic avatar body parts and clothes
[12:07 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: ok so not a good week to update my OS server :)
[12:08 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: hehe
[12:08 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: you need to copy from opensim lib body parts and clothes contents to main folder
[12:08 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: and wear the 6 things
[12:08 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: OSG is up and running?
[12:08 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: on that note, thank you for a great meeting. Must dash to life, as this is as real as it gets *grins*
[12:08 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: top have a proper editable, dressed female ruth
[12:08 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: tc Lyr
[12:08 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: I'm back.
[12:08 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org%3A8002: you too, Cuga and thank you, dear friends, for your hard work and commitment
[12:08 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ofc then load try to load iar, if you have one
[12:08 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Bye, Lry.
[12:09 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: cya later Lyr :)
[12:09 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: wel i seem ppl at lbsa.. on way here..
[12:09 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: not sure of all open or jsut for some
[12:10 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Oh before I forget it
[12:10 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Go ahead, Vincent.
[12:11 PM] Vincent Sylvester: I would like to document the library creation on the wiki at some point for transparency and to make it easier to update them in future
[12:11 PM] Vincent Sylvester: The libomv things as well as the libs
[12:12 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Something along the lines of where to get them and then how to build each and such
[12:12 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Cuga already provided some notes on the dylib creation process
[12:12 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: oh osg says offline but login works
[12:12 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: For the Mac its all documented at https://github.com/cuga-rajal/opensim_apple_arm64
[12:13 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: I do need to update that
[12:13 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Especially in regards to the database things, but also a few others it might be useful to know how they were made
[12:13 PM] Vincent Sylvester: It also looks like libgdiplus might best be part of the libs
[12:13 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: *rolls eyes*
[12:13 PM] Vincent Sylvester: The coverage in the mono project and distro mirrors is a bit spotty
[12:14 PM] Vincent Sylvester: sqlite itself probably just have to make a _x86 and _arm.dylib now for the time being
[12:15 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Likely has to have similar setup for the .so as well if it fails on Pi though
[12:15 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: for my testing I was making arm64 only
[12:15 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: for the sqlite testing
[12:15 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: I think I need to go
[12:16 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org%3A8002: Have a good Easter everyone
[12:16 PM] Vincent Sylvester: I'll try to read through the remaining release notes for it to see if we could safely use latest
[12:16 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: ok just made another test
[12:16 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: and region did not sent several of the cpas entries
[12:16 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Splitting the libs means larger binary size though so want to avoid it if possible
[12:17 PM] Vincent Sylvester: I just made a new compile and force reinstalled dotnet, so after restart will check if it is back to normal or not
[12:17 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: again
[12:18 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: I need to go.. take care all.. see you next week
[12:18 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org%3A9000: *waves and poofs
[12:18 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: ok, Cuga. See you next week.
[12:18 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Anyways, so that's gonna be in flux somewhat and hopefully in the next couple weeks master be fixed in terms of sqlite dylibs
[12:18 PM] Jagga Meridith: Vincent, because arm and intel libs?
[12:19 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: yeah thios region is broken somehow
[12:19 PM] Vincent Sylvester: There are still some mac os machines out there running on x86 so just having an arm dylib is not a good idea
[12:19 PM] Jagga Meridith: ok
[12:19 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: it is not adding the assets caps
[12:19 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org%3A80: odd
[12:21 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: We are at 20 past the hour. Any other items for today?
[12:22 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: Congrats to Vincent on your first set of code submissions to Open Simulator.
[12:22 PM] Vincent Sylvester: lol
[12:22 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @tanglegrid.net%3A8002: With that said I will call the meeting to a close. Thank you all for coming. See you again next week.
