[11:00 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Hello, everyone.
[11:00 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Andrew
[11:01 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: One cat by the table and another on my lap. :)
[11:02 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: can the one on your lap be derendered?
[11:02 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Not a fan of animesh?
[11:02 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: me?
[11:03 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Yeah or why you want to derender it?
[11:04 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: because pretty much every animated animal becomes annoyingly repetitive after 10 minutes
[11:04 AM] Vincent Sylvester: The lack of animation variety is certainly unpleasant
[11:04 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: My junior cat rarely stay on my lap for as long as 10 minutes.
[11:05 AM] Vincent Sylvester: What irks me more with animesh is that you cannot scale it easily
[11:05 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-)
[11:05 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: I found it surprising and annoying at the same time.
[11:05 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: scale t and a new texture and you have a tiger
[11:07 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: ... which is a bit strange because the avatar rigged with the same skeleton can scale
[11:08 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Right
[11:10 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Ubit had a big rant planned for the changes to the content type for the http reponses, since none of that really makes sense
[11:10 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Minor fix to the grid stats config and the new dylib from last meeting
[11:11 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Have yet to test that, still waiting on the mac mini I ordered
[11:11 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: where was the code for the dylib loaded from?
[11:11 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sqlite
[11:11 AM] Vincent Sylvester: From github I think
[11:12 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Older version not latest
[11:12 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: no. the change is this weekedn
[11:12 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: url?
[11:12 AM] Vincent Sylvester: http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=9185
[11:13 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: thanks
[11:13 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: 2011 and all
[11:14 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Most of the connectors and libs are positively ancient, but upgrading them requires going through changelogs at least briefly to determine if implementations need to be changed
[11:14 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sure
[11:15 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yep
[11:16 AM] Vincent Sylvester: I did finish writing a new migration system with the aim to check table schema and ensure everything is setup properly before services try to load data
[11:16 AM] Vincent Sylvester: That seems to work quite well in production so far, but likely still needs more testing on cases
[11:16 AM] Vincent Sylvester: sql has a lot of small things that can cause problems, so checking for all that is complicated
[11:17 AM] Vincent Sylvester: More so when we have three or even four different systems that all use different queries for that
[11:17 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: /hi)
[11:18 AM] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Speak of the Devil!
[11:18 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: all kinds of small vendor specific additions ot tweaks
[11:18 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: what what devil? run and hidE!
[11:18 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Ubit
[11:18 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Hello, Ubit.
[11:19 AM] Vincent Sylvester: It will halt on critical services on the region side, but the way robust is setup even if a service fails to start it still continues with the rest
[11:19 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Usually prims table would be the first to explode on failed connection, but yes if it cannot establish connection the migration would fail
[11:19 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: If one of the bits of red text clearly states "Unable to access database" that would be a help.
[11:21 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Not even sure if it gives a more specific error on what part of the credentials are wrong
[11:21 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it would even help more if the color of such a message stood out from the red
[11:22 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: How about bright red? ;)
[11:22 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Color is just added post message, sort of, kinda difficult to actually mess with that
[11:22 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-)
[11:22 AM] Vincent Sylvester: The colors for logging, yellow and red are sort of fixed in place by the log4net thing
[11:22 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Making say a green one for success things is kinda hack
[11:23 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Learning experience for the user to double check their typing
[11:23 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Idiotproofing to that level is a can of worms
[11:23 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Amount of code required over just looking twice
[11:24 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: hi
[11:24 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi
[11:24 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Hello, Dahlia
[11:25 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Over 3000 residents here, percentage of that is less than 1%
[11:25 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: I know. All you can do is let them know they messed up on something. Let them sort it out.
[11:26 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Like trying to check for file permissions for sqlite so the db file can be written when the filesystem handling in .net only works 100% on windows
[11:26 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Linux some chroot params and such fun things can return true even if you cannot write the file
[11:26 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: did you crash Ubit?
[11:26 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: are you talking about the macos sqlite?
[11:26 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: i did open my own profile
[11:26 AM] Vincent Sylvester: heh
[11:26 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: with broken fs
[11:27 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: oh
[11:27 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: fs issues on your end or here?
[11:27 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: fs beta has broken profile picks
[11:27 AM] Vincent Sylvester: This region is a few commits behind master usually
[11:27 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: oh. I read fs as filesystem.
[11:28 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: hehe
[11:28 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: yea, profile has been broken for quite a long time.
[11:28 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: firestormed filesystym
[11:28 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: they finally fixed it.. but still not avaiable
[11:28 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: fsfs
[11:28 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: odd i didn0t remember it fail with just opening...
[11:29 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: had idea we did need to click picks.. and i only did click notes
[11:29 AM] Vincent Sylvester: notes has been broken since that picks change as well
[11:29 AM] Vincent Sylvester: More code for them to revert I guess
[11:29 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: but full freeze ?
[11:30 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Maybe worse due to hg?
[11:30 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Could b
[11:30 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: all and half dead osgrid
[11:31 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: half?
[11:31 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: half dead?
[11:31 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: :)
[11:31 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I prefer half alive
[11:31 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: yeah some things are up
[11:31 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: such as?
[11:32 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: only logins are disable
[11:32 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: ok
[11:32 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: ok full freze just on open profile
[11:32 AM] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Engineer: The glass is half as big as it needs to be.
[11:32 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: guess same picks issue
[11:33 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Greetings! Sorry to be so quiet *grins*
[11:33 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sometimes it crash just on an tiny xml error in the UI code
[11:33 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: btw this bug is only on fs beta.. and as i said they fixed it
[11:33 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: ofc do not merge that silly loop gavin :)
[11:34 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Recursions go brrrr
[11:34 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: no
[11:34 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: https://jira.firestormviewer.org/browse/FIRE-35276
[11:35 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: and...
[11:35 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: https://jira.firestormviewer.org/browse/FIRE-35252
[11:35 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Timezone has yet to be fixed as well ;)
[11:36 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: btw how is your viewer gavin ?
[11:36 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is being worked on pretty much every day
[11:36 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Nice!
[11:36 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: :)
[11:37 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: adding in opensim support, testing updating the old one too
[11:37 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: ?
[11:37 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: on mine?
[11:37 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: dayturn
[11:37 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yes, I have used standard macOS key combinations
[11:38 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: for say preferences
[11:38 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: command-P is usually print in all apps on macOS
[11:38 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me grins
[11:39 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: but it worked well
[11:39 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: well about last week code changes
[11:39 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: good
[11:39 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: i changed llSetSomething hmm
[11:39 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: if you mean sqlite: 01:42:54 - [SQLITE REGION DB]: Sqlite - connecting: URI=file:OpenSim.db,version=3,UseUTF16Encoding=Truezsh: segmentation fault dotnet OpenSim.dll
[11:39 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: changed llsetContentTYpe
[11:40 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I tried it, had to revert
[11:40 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: it had some restriotions that are now only applied on type HTML
[11:41 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: mantis 9187
[11:41 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: hmm seg fault with sqlite?
[11:41 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: that with last libs ?
[11:41 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: yes
[11:42 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I reverted to the commit just before the sqlite commits and it works again
[11:42 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: yeack
[11:43 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: err a apple silicon mac?
[11:43 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: well the new dylib should have both..
[11:44 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: but dotnet is arm64
[11:44 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: guess we need to ask cuga to try again :)
[11:45 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Go on the Apple menu and do an About this Mac Dahlia
[11:45 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it should telly which processor you have
[11:46 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: Z80B :p
[11:46 AM] Vincent Sylvester: With apple moving away from x86 not sure worth digging around in there. We established last time that it likes to load things from path and other places if the shipped copy cannot be loaded for whatever reason
[11:46 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: 6502
[11:46 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: bahh 6809 was a lot better
[11:46 AM] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: RL intruding again, I gota go....
[11:46 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: guess almost no one did :)
[11:46 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: Gavin, what do you want to see from about this mac?
[11:47 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: the processor
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: well trs color.. and a few more
[11:47 AM] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: POOF!
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: dragon..
[11:47 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: its M1
[11:47 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: late 2020
[11:47 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: so you have a more modern sqlite somehere on the box
[11:47 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: just when apple silicon first came out
[11:48 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: right, so you should have an arm version of Homebrew installed and not the Intel version which would have to run in Rosetta emulation
[11:48 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: clipboarding and pasting about this mac would be difficult at the moment...
[11:48 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: so I would uninstall the one you have and get the arm version installed
[11:49 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Straight factory reset that thing, then nothing should conflict /s
[11:50 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: back again. 6809 ftw!
[11:50 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: with the commits around tha sqlite, opensim should try to open that new dylib
[11:50 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: how to clean it out
[11:50 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: rtfm ;-)
[11:50 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: do not mess with that.. at least it is working now
[11:50 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Cuga might be on a newer m2 chip so maybe not back compatible with that
[11:51 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I am sure there is a complete uninstall procedure on their homepages
[11:51 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: and if we put back those commits it will try to use ours again
[11:51 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: just need to find the proper fm to rt ;)
[11:51 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-)
[11:51 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: hehe
[11:51 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: well his bullet and ubode libs seem worjin
[11:52 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: working
[11:52 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: there is not compatibility issues as long as it is buitl with the right deployment target
[11:52 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: bullet works, or whatever the default is
[11:52 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: still bullet
[11:53 AM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: seg fault.. such a informative error :)
[11:53 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: lol
[11:53 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Also Dahlia, you might want to use macports and not Homebrew
[11:53 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: https://www.macports.org
[11:53 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: is that better?
[11:54 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is pure BSD, which is also the BSD subsystem in macOS
[11:55 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I cut my unix teeth on bsd 4.2 ;)
[11:55 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: in a very few cases (on the bledding edge) you may not find a port that exist in Homebrew
[11:55 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: there you have it
[11:55 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: fork bombs were super easy in those days
[11:55 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is certifed Unix 3 in macOS
[11:55 AM] Vincent Sylvester: Still are if your name is Cloudflare
[11:56 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Dahlia, they still are. I was watching a YT video about one in particular the other day.
[11:56 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I spent quite a few years wrigint c on hpux which is also bsd based
[11:56 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: so bsd and I are old friends
[11:56 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: then you should be right at home with port
[11:57 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I even have some of those loose leaf books with the devil on the cover
[11:57 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: :)
[11:58 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: biggest annoyance perhaps is that the default shell is zsh
[11:58 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: well I dont miss csh
[11:58 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: but you can install an up to date version of bash with port
[11:59 AM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: OK I will look at macports. TY for suggestion :)
[11:59 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yw
[11:59 AM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: I preferred (t)csh back in the day.
[12:00 PM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: dont remember that one, I used ksh for a while
[12:00 PM] Vincent Sylvester: There are references to it in old scripts or specifically the appearance notecards of NPCs used by them
[12:00 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Tried a few places to see if their assets would return anything for that uuid, but so far no dice
[12:01 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: it is on aine dance partner NPCs
[12:01 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Yep
[12:01 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: soem 3 of them have a boydHeadpaint thing
[12:01 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: her region is at lfgrid
[12:02 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: and the club thing is there.. with same uuid
[12:02 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: i tried to see if lfgrid had it.. and think it does not either
[12:03 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: possible lost with the grid Aine did use
[12:03 PM] Vincent Sylvester: It also shows up as requests to send the asset to other grids or import them from osg, kitely etc. Leaving me to think it could have been some default texture once used for a starter avatar or something, but it seems lost to time somehow
[12:04 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: guess a fix is just edit all those notecard replacing that uuid by c2...
[12:04 PM] Vincent Sylvester: 46697265-7374-6f72-6d00-000000000000 for anyone wishing to dig around
[12:05 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: maybe some older grid have it...
[12:05 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: or has :)
[12:05 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Dead uuids are nothing new really, just the volume is interesting seeing as it accounts for about 2 million requests within just two days
[12:06 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Lots of voodoo going on lately
[12:06 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: A bit like a default OS asset.
[12:07 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: possilbe was never exported from that grid
[12:07 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Maybe not now. Just noting the similarity in structure.
[12:07 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: she was on
[12:08 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Not unheard of to customize the opensim library folder with stuff for starter avatars so possibility
[12:08 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: anmyways her region and all her freebies are that at lfgrid btw
[12:09 PM] Vincent Sylvester: If I find more linked to those things I might send them an email see if they have it somewhere in the system or perhaps know something of the history
[12:09 PM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: freebies? o.0
[12:10 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Oh right almost forgot. EU switching to standard time this weekend, so next meeting should be back to normal times for them.
[12:11 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: https://opensimworld.com/hop/87870
[12:11 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: yeah
[12:11 PM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: ty
[12:12 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: :)
[12:13 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: anyway, I need to leave for now
[12:13 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: see you all next week
[12:13 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Take care! *waves*
[12:13 PM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: bb
[12:13 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: yeah andrew forgot to refill his water clock :)
[12:14 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: tc, Gavin.
[12:15 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: :)
[12:16 PM] Vincent Sylvester: Bowl full of food, silverfish more interesting, cause it moves, must consume immediately!
[12:16 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: one of main took a bath on the toilet tring to drink on it
[12:16 PM] Vincent Sylvester: rofl
[12:16 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: one of mine...
[12:17 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: :)
[12:17 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: It is both fun and at times annoying having cats.
[12:17 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: We are almost 20 past the hour. Any last minute items for today?
[12:17 PM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: I hope you flush it frequently ;)
[12:18 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: :)
[12:18 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: yeah was clean water
[12:18 PM] Ubit.Umarov @hg.osgrid.org: she was months old.. so like 15 years ago.. pff
[12:20 PM] Andrew.Hellershanks @westworldgrid.net:8002: Looks like that will do it for another meeting. Remember the time change this weekend if you are in Europe somewhere. Thank you all for coming. See you again next week.
[12:20 PM] Dahlia.Trimble @grid.wwweb3d.net:8002: OK I go refill my digital water clock. Bye all, ty :)
