Chat log from the meeting on 2023-08-01

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[11:25 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: welcome all :)
[11:26 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: about last week code changes, not many...
[11:26 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: just a littel change on a experimental thing
[11:26 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: and jsut a few minutes ago some small changes made by Vicent :)
[11:28 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester I have found vs22 is a lot more aggressive with formatting, been clogging up my commit dialog with all sorts of spaces and indentations
[11:28 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Might just do a whole cleanup commit at some point get all of that out of the way heh
[11:29 AM PT]  Lyr Lobo: wb
[11:29 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: oops
[11:29 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: wrong button
[11:29 AM PT]  Lyr Lobo chuckles
[11:29 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal lol I do that all the time
[11:29 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal WB noob :)
[11:32 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal I was curious if there is a timeline for making a 0.9.3 release (dotnet)
[11:33 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Same timeline as winning the lottery I guess
[11:33 AM PT]  Orbert.Tatham Backside of never?
[11:34 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Could be any day or another year, somewhat depends on what goes on
[11:34 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal ok :)
[11:35 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester At the moment there are still a few things up in the air so making a release now would not go over so well. Timing always been to align with viewers to a point both stay in sync for some time afterwards
[11:36 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal I see, thanks for explaining
[11:36 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal Its too bed we don;t have closer contact with viewer developers, you would think thet would want to work closely
[11:37 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester It could be better, but there is definitely contact happening
[11:37 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal oh thats good
[11:37 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal I'll be right back
[11:38 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester If you follow say Firestorm though their commit log is a mess of merging LL code so I don't doubt they spend most of their time just trying to make sense of it all
[11:38 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Did get some things looked at recently so that's progress. Suppose they are in the same boat as we are just waiting on what the next direction is
[11:39 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester When I asked about making improvements to search I was told it was legacy stuff they won't touch and all will likely be websearch soon, which is a bummer, but suppose makes it easier in other ways
[11:42 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester We could be making all sorts of changes if viewers tagged along, lots of stuff has already been written in ways that are easy to extend
[11:45 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal I guess we are all stuck trying to keep it all SL compatible
[11:45 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal which is a good thing but limiting
[11:45 AM PT]  Orbert.Tatham The longer I am in these meetings, the more I disagree with that statement
[11:47 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal well, pros and cons to both directions
[11:47 AM PT]  Orbert.Tatham LL is doing their damndest to make it impossible anyway
[11:49 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal they always have
[11:49 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Wish when they copy our ideas to at least do it properly and not make such a mess, but it's always been like that
[11:49 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Surprised they have no copied var regions... by making mega regions heh
[11:52 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal Is there an approachable FS developer I could reach out to about the HG TP multiple-HTTP issue? The one that breaks name-based authentication. Perhaps I could learn something and fix my auth module
[11:53 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Beq does OpenSim handling, did you not open a jira ticket with them already?
[11:53 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal Nobody ober there responded to my Jira bug report
[11:53 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: yeah jira is the "oficial way to talk those issues"
[11:53 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal months ago
[11:54 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Might not be easy fix and lower priority, it sometimes takes a while before they look at things
[11:55 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: as you seen the skipwhitespace means also \n
[11:55 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: if (c == ' ' || c == '\t' || c == '\n' || c == '\r')
[11:56 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal helloskipwhitespaceworld
[11:56 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: oops
[11:56 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: taht was for im :)
[11:57 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal Maybe I will try sending a message to Beq
[11:57 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal thx
[11:58 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester I'd help ya look, but the viewer code is too abstract for my brain
[11:58 AM PT]  Vincent.Sylvester Like me some readable c# :)
[11:58 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal The question is more about expected protocol and reasons
[11:59 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: but what multiple http issue?
[11:59 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal reasons for 3 HTTP requests with only the 3rd containing credentials
[11:59 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal we talked about it at length here a few months ago
[11:59 AM PT]  Ubit Umarov: think fs may still have the triple bug i seen
[11:59 AM PT]  Cuga.Rajal let me see if I can find the Jira
[12:00 PM PT]  Ubit Umarov: it does repeat several things 3 times with submilisecond delay
[12:00 PM PT]  Cuga.Rajal problem isn;t so much the multiple requets as the creds only sent in the 3rd
[12:00 PM PT]  Cuga.Rajal thats the part I dont get, and which breaks things
[12:00 PM PT]  Ubit Umarov: but only seen that on some messages to regions
[12:01 PM PT]  Cuga.Rajal
[12:02 PM PT]  Ubit Umarov: well if there, one day they may see it :)
[12:03 PM PT]  Cuga.Rajal but a good convo with a developer might clear up the reasons for, or provide insight for a workaround
[12:04 PM PT]  Cuga.Rajal ok, well, I'll try to reacjh out to beq, thanks
[12:06 PM PT]  Ubit Umarov: so any other issue for this meeting?
[12:07 PM PT]  Ubit Umarov: Ok so thanks everyone, see you next week, if not before :)
[12:08 PM PT]  Cuga.Rajal does beq hang out at all in OS-dev IRC?
[12:08 PM PT]  Orbert.Tatham Thanks Ubit
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