Chat log from the meeting on 2021-02-23

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[11:01] Ubit Umarov: wc selby.Evans
[11:01] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Sleby
[11:01] Kayaker Magic: Hello Selby!
[11:02] Ubit Umarov: hi andrew
[11:02] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Andrew
[11:02] Kayaker Magic: Ada got her second Covid shot the other day and says it really knocked her out. She's resting up.
[11:03] Ubit Umarov: oh?
[11:03] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sorry to hear that
[11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, everyone.
[11:03] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: the father of a friend of mine died 2 days after getting the 2nd shot
[11:03] Ubit Umarov: their pub on the shots is that they are nice and easy
[11:04] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I had no reaction but a sore arm
[11:04] Kayaker Magic: Som people get flu like symptoms on the second shot. It is good news: It means your immune system is reacting to the virus protein!
[11:05] Ubit Umarov: yeah that is what most ppl has
[11:05] Ubit Umarov: i mean just sore arm
[11:05] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: had both shots
[11:06] Andrew Hellershanks: I would want to know vaccine I'm getting before getting a shot.
[11:06] Ubit Umarov: well keep the safe rules.. distance, mask etc
[11:06] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: agreed Andrew
[11:06] Ubit Umarov: their best claims is 95% protection
[11:06] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I got pfizer
[11:06] Ubit Umarov: real.. 50% ? dunno
[11:07] Ubit Umarov: yeah that is 95% no?
[11:07] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Pfizer is 95%
[11:07] Andrew Hellershanks: IIRC, there are vaccines that only take one shot but then there are some vaccines that are less than 95% effective.
[11:07] Ubit Umarov: the oxford one is a mess
[11:08] Ubit Umarov: no one really knows it seems
[11:08] Ubit Umarov: masny eu countries are not using it on ppl > 65 yrs old
[11:08] Ubit Umarov: many..
[11:08] Ubit Umarov: their testing was just. bad gezz
[11:09] Ubit Umarov: think only one is a single shot
[11:09] Ubit Umarov: not sure if approved anywhere
[11:09] Ubit Umarov: jonhson & j ??
[11:09] Ubit Umarov: or moderna ?
[11:10] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Moderna is the DNA modifying one, so def not taking that
[11:10] Ubit Umarov: yeah.. ur av coudl grow hair.. scary
[11:10] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: US has only approved Pfizer and Moderna -- both have high protection
[11:11] Kayaker Magic: Pfizer is also messenger RNA just like Moderna
[11:11] Ubit Umarov: Johnson & Johnson Announces Single-Shot Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine
[11:11] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Right, Kayaker
[11:12] Ubit Umarov: yeah
[11:12] Kayaker Magic: And it doesnt modify DNA, just uses your ribozomes the way a virus does to produce a protien that your immune system learns to attack.
[11:12] Andrew Hellershanks: I thought Pfizer was single shot but I'm not listening to the radio to be up on the latest vaccine news.
[11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Pfizer keeps dialing back their delivery dates here so
[11:12] Andrew Hellershanks: hello, jamie
[11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Jamie
[11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: pls have a seat
[11:12] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Pfizer is 2 shot
[11:12] Ubit Umarov: Vaccine Candidate 72% Effective in the US and 66% Effective Overall at Preventing Moderate to Severe COVID-19, 28 Days after Vaccination
[11:13] Ubit Umarov: think only this j&j is single
[11:13] Ubit Umarov: well there are a ton now
[11:13] Ubit Umarov: russia has 2 or 3
[11:13] Ubit Umarov: china a few
[11:13] Ubit Umarov: india..  ?? etc
[11:13] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: hi everybody
[11:13] Ubit Umarov: hi
[11:14] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: India has abought a large quantity of the Russian vaccine and will produce it in India
[11:14] Ubit Umarov: also the oxford one
[11:14] Andrew Hellershanks: Time to get back to why we are here. Who is going to start us off today with something related to OpenSimulator?
[11:14] Ubit Umarov: Ohh that is why we are here
[11:15] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: chipping at a new viewer release
[11:15] Ubit Umarov: eep one?
[11:15] Ubit Umarov runs and hides
[11:15] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: no
[11:15] Ubit Umarov: bahh seems ll did broke our rainbow
[11:16] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yeah, it still looks like shit generally in SL, so no hurry
[11:16] Ubit Umarov: they made the asset wrong.. colours in the wrong order for the main rainbow
[11:16] Kayaker Magic: I have been making non-avatar animesh lately, outside is a hex post that bows in diffreent directions by switching animations when you touch it.
[11:16] Ubit Umarov: i made a fixed asset,, ai austin retouched it
[11:16] Ubit Umarov: now seem ll changed THE CODE to reverse the order
[11:16] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: SG is working hard up there, don't forget to tip her
[11:16] Ubit Umarov: grrrr
[11:17] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: sorry
[11:17] Ubit Umarov: sg?
[11:17] Kayaker Magic: I have a couple of strange things happening with animesh, may be submitting mantusi when I figure out whats going on.
[11:17] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: sticky keys
[11:17] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I goty myself Bento Buddy the other day
[11:18] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: but he creates about 1-2 instructional videos every day now, so there are well over 100 to to through
[11:18] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:18] Ubit Umarov: not sure why a friend of the pope does that, but ok
[11:18] Andrew Hellershanks: Gavin, It will take a while to get through all of those. What are your initial impressions of the program?
[11:19] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is a big bite to chew
[11:19] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: plus Blender does not exactly add to the experience :-)
[11:19] Kayaker Magic: Ada Radius and I are researching how to make animesh, mesh bodies and clothing without paying for plugins like Bento Buddy or Avastar.
[11:20] Kayaker Magic: Ada says Avastr for Blender 2.8 and above is full of bugs.
[11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: I installed the latest vesion of MakeHuman on my machine but I haven't had time to do much with it.
[11:20] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I magically sell enough items every month in SL that both pays for my land, premium and now also bento Buddy
[11:20] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I have not added any merchandice since 2012
[11:22] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: since we talk about SL, the latest TPV video was like watching paint dry
[11:22] Andrew Hellershanks: Gavin, nice. What types of items do you sell?
[11:22] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: mesh items
[11:23] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: some full perm
[11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: ok
[11:23] Ubit Umarov: hmm the Oz goodbye one?
[11:23] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is basically the same items I have on Kitely Marketplace
[11:23] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yep Ubit
[11:24] Ubit Umarov: yeah had several silent moments
[11:24] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-)
[11:24] Ubit Umarov: but Oz leaving SL was its main thing
[11:27] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: symptomatically they did not give him anything, but he had to give them all a bear :-))
[11:27] Ubit Umarov: well on last week not much code changes
[11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: Ubit, not much? I didn't see any. :)
[11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: You were just giving people some time to test out the latest changes.
[11:28] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: WIP
[11:28] Ubit Umarov: well none is part of not much :p
[11:29] Ubit Umarov: well lbsa is a bit behind
[11:29] Ubit Umarov: not sure who is testing it
[11:29] Kayaker Magic: All sets contain the empty set?
[11:30] Ubit Umarov: don't get 2 philosophic now :p
[11:30] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:30] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe
[11:32] Andrew Hellershanks: Any more questions/comments for today?
[11:33] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: If nothing else Bento Buddy prompted me tp brush up the viewer code for import/export link sets
[11:33] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it had not been touched for 7 years
[11:33] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: so that will be in the next version
[11:33] Andrew Hellershanks: If it ain't broke ... ?
[11:34] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it was lacking
[11:34] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: no materials support, no support for version 2 archives
[11:34] Andrew Hellershanks: ok.
[11:35] Andrew Hellershanks: Is that going to be a lot of work?
[11:35] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is fixed
[11:35] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: just not released
[11:36] Andrew Hellershanks nods
[11:36] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: except the changes are in the repository
[11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: Where can people find the repository in case they want to build the code and not wait for an official release?
[11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: LL had a brillinat commit message to their latest viewer release: Impostor management is an unmaintainable and incomprehensible mess
[11:39] Andrew Hellershanks: :)
[11:39] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: not sure I can untangle all that yet, but
[11:45] Kayaker Magic: <rickets>
[11:45] Kayaker Magic: <crickets>
[11:45] Andrew Hellershanks: Those too. :)
[11:46] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I am listening to the weather outside
[11:46] Andrew Hellershanks: It seems we have all had a quiet week so there isn't much to talk about today.
[11:46] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Bye everyone
[11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. Bye Selby.
[11:47] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Bye Selby
[11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: On that note, we might as well pack it in early today.
[11:47] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sounds like a plan!
[11:48] Andrew Hellershanks waits for Kayaker to finish typing
[11:48] Ubit Umarov: kay is typing?
[11:48] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm seeing the moving ... above his head.
[11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, tx.Oh
[11:49] Kayaker Magic: I'm not typing
[11:49] tx.Oh @dynapad.icf.de:9000: hi
[11:49] Kayaker Magic: My avatar animaton is stuck
[11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. My viewer is stuck showing that you are.
[11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: If that is it, I will say my usual final words.
[11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Thank you all for coming. See you again next week.
[11:49] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:49] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Have a great week all
[11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, now it has stopped showing you typing, Kayaker.
[11:49] Ubit Umarov: u2
[11:50] Kayaker Magic: Bye all!

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