Chat log from the meeting on 2010-11-09

[2010/11/09 10:59] Nebadon Izumi: hey guys
[2010/11/09 10:59] sim core: Hi, neb and all :-)
[2010/11/09 10:59] BlueWall Slade: Hello
[2010/11/09 10:59] Richardus Raymaker: hi blue sim
[2010/11/09 11:00] sim core: Greets, richardus :-J
[2010/11/09 11:00] Richardus Raymaker: hi penny
[2010/11/09 11:00] Richardus Raymaker: hi neb
[2010/11/09 11:00] Nebadon Izumi: hello
[2010/11/09 11:00] Penny Lane is Online
[2010/11/09 11:01] Penny Lane: Hi Neb, Rich
[2010/11/09 11:01] Richardus Raymaker: is the new version already available for download ?
[2010/11/09 11:01] Dorothea Lundquist is Online
[2010/11/09 11:01] Richardus Raymaker: the source
[2010/11/09 11:01] Script saved
[2010/11/09 11:01] sim core: I believe it is, on the chat channel richardus :-)
[2010/11/09 11:01] Richardus Raymaker: not o the page
[2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: yes Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:02] Richardus Raymaker: lol sims, thats finding a flee in the usa
[2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: i posted it on IRC and Twitter
[2010/11/09 11:02] Sammmy Galicia: hello
[2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: and the login screen
[2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: 1 sec
[2010/11/09 11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: oh... sliding doors. Those are new
[2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: http://news.osgrid.org/2010/11/09/preparing-for-todays-mandatory-upgrades/
[2010/11/09 11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: hello, everyone
[2010/11/09 11:02] Nebadon Izumi: hello
[2010/11/09 11:02] Richardus Raymaker: about news. it would be nice if there's 1 page wirg all news, and not spread on 3 pages. that are not all uptodat
[2010/11/09 11:03] Penny Lane: Hi Andrew
[2010/11/09 11:03] sim core: Lol hi, andrew and all
[2010/11/09 11:03] Nebadon Izumi: twitter Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:03] Nebadon Izumi: whenever i post news it will be linked on Twitter
[2010/11/09 11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: opensim website is supposed to have a search feature. I'm trying to use it and I still can't find the info I'm looking for. :-)
[2010/11/09 11:03] Richardus Raymaker: ok found it
[2010/11/09 11:03] Nebadon Izumi: Andrew
[2010/11/09 11:04] Nebadon Izumi: using google search is still better
[2010/11/09 11:04] Nebadon Izumi: in google
[2010/11/09 11:04] Nebadon Izumi: type > site:opensimulator.org/wiki <search criteria here>
[2010/11/09 11:04] Andrew Hellershanks: yeah, I tried that. Still didn't turn up what I was looking for.
[2010/11/09 11:04] Nebadon Izumi: what are you looking for?
[2010/11/09 11:04] Andrew Hellershanks: The info on setting up voice chat using FreeSwitch. I was thinking of having another go at getting it working in my grid.
[2010/11/09 11:05] sim core: Yes, speaking of that does anyone know where to look to get the flags for os language...
[2010/11/09 11:05] Andrew Hellershanks: os language?
[2010/11/09 11:06] Richardus Raymaker is Online
[2010/11/09 11:06] Andrew Hellershanks: For a speech translator?
[2010/11/09 11:06] Richardus Raymaker: i must be nts, dont see the download link on the news page
[2010/11/09 11:06] Justin Clark-Casey is Online
[2010/11/09 11:06] sim core: ...yes ossl, I use the parcel setting function but, the details on the flags are missing on the webpage :-J
[2010/11/09 11:07] Nebadon Izumi: ah i have some info on the osgrid wiki
[2010/11/09 11:07] Nebadon Izumi: but i dont know how valid it really is
[2010/11/09 11:07] Nebadon Izumi: let me get the link
[2010/11/09 11:07] sim core: I'll look it up, thank-you :-)
[2010/11/09 11:07] Nebadon Izumi: http://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php/Freeswitch_HowTo2
[2010/11/09 11:08] Richardus Raymaker: pff, did you changed colors on the twitterpage ?
[2010/11/09 11:08] Nebadon Izumi: hey there Justin
[2010/11/09 11:08] Justin Clark-Casey: hi nebadon
[2010/11/09 11:08] Justin Clark-Casey: hi all
[2010/11/09 11:08] Richardus Raymaker: hi justin.
[2010/11/09 11:08] Richardus Raymaker: soryy nebadon, i dont see any source download link
[2010/11/09 11:08] sim core: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OsParcelSetDetails
[2010/11/09 11:09] Sammmy Galicia: http://download.osgrid.org/osgrid.opensim-11092010.v0.7.1.ae9c4a4.zip
[2010/11/09 11:09] Nebadon Izumi: its on the news page Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:09] Richardus Raymaker: i looked, and i dont see it
[2010/11/09 11:09] sim core: :-) Hi, Justin and all
[2010/11/09 11:09] Richardus Raymaker: thats source code sammmy ?
[2010/11/09 11:10] Sammmy Galicia: no binary
[2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi: richardus its literally right below the release link
[2010/11/09 11:10] Sammmy Galicia: theres two links below that for the source
[2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi: look again
[2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi: im gonna test my youtube script
[2010/11/09 11:10] Nebadon Izumi whispers: just heads up video is about to play :)
[2010/11/09 11:11] Nebadon Izumi: you see it Richardus?
[2010/11/09 11:11] Sammmy Galicia watches music video
[2010/11/09 11:11] Nebadon Izumi: cool guess its working then
[2010/11/09 11:11] Richardus Raymaker: i see only freenode link and soem link to git list
[2010/11/09 11:11] Nebadon Izumi: i havent tried it with this large of a crowd
[2010/11/09 11:11] Nebadon Izumi: what page are you looking on Richardus?
[2010/11/09 11:12] Andrew Hellershanks: sim, you can look at the source for the Openmetaverse library for information on the flags used in the LSL/OSSL stuff
[2010/11/09 11:12] Penny Lane: Nice video, but why it starts Imprudence playing all by itself is a mystery. (Impy devs don't know why :P)
[2010/11/09 11:12] Nebadon Izumi: only thing i can say Richardus, your not on the right page
[2010/11/09 11:12] Sammmy Galicia: main news page http://news.osgrid.org/
[2010/11/09 11:12] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya i dont know why either Penny
[2010/11/09 11:12] Nebadon Izumi: we are probably not sending packets properly or something
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: not a huge priority at the moment
[2010/11/09 11:13] Richardus Raymaker: i found the problem, the link on twitter points to other page. then right from that is hidden link to other page. thast confusing
[2010/11/09 11:13] sim core: :-J Thanks, andrew
[2010/11/09 11:13] UnOriginal Names: whoa?
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: im sure we'll figure it out eventually
[2010/11/09 11:13] Penny Lane: No no Neb, it's not you. Same happens in SL
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: oh
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: interesting
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: i didnt know that
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: someone told me before it wasnt happening in SL
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: and i beleived em
[2010/11/09 11:13] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 11:13] Penny Lane: Heh, I've tested it.
[2010/11/09 11:13] Andrew Hellershanks: nebadon, thanks for the freeswitch link
[2010/11/09 11:13] UnOriginal Names: hmm
[2010/11/09 11:14] Richardus Raymaker: on the news page right is the correct link to source
[2010/11/09 11:14] Richardus Raymaker: a bit hidden
[2010/11/09 11:14] UnOriginal Names: how did i end up here?
[2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: no problem Andrew
[2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: UnOriginal, the sim you were trying to access is probbaly crashed
[2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: and you got sent here
[2010/11/09 11:14] UnOriginal Names: ohok
[2010/11/09 11:14] UnOriginal Names: why can't i see u
[2010/11/09 11:14] Nebadon Izumi: we are upstairs
[2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: in the meeting center
[2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: oo
[2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: oo
[2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: kk
[2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: so ya we'll be doing the upgrade today on OSgrid
[2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: grid wont be down long
[2010/11/09 11:15] Richardus Raymaker: nebadon, maby you can add the url in the text of the news page that is linked from twitter, so people find the source.
[2010/11/09 11:15] Richardus Raymaker: http://news.osgrid.org/2010/11/09/preparing-for-todays-mandatory-upgrades/
[2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: omg no lag while that video is playing
[2010/11/09 11:15] UnOriginal Names: niiiiiiiiiiiice
[2010/11/09 11:15] Nebadon Izumi: Richardus i already did
[2010/11/09 11:15] sim core: :-J
[2010/11/09 11:16] Nebadon Izumi: let me try a larger video then i'll be done with video for the day
[2010/11/09 11:16] Richardus Raymaker: maby this page http://news.osgrid.org/2010/11/08/mandatory-simulator-upgrade-11092010/ dont get reloaded here then
[2010/11/09 11:16] Nebadon Izumi: i just wanted to test our new Youtube proxy
[2010/11/09 11:16] Andrew Hellershanks: I don't think I have a compiler for C on my windows servers but I can always test it by compiling the latest code on my Linux server
[2010/11/09 11:16] UnOriginal Names: omg it's workign fine, the youtube
[2010/11/09 11:17] Richardus Raymaker: works god you tube
[2010/11/09 11:17] Sammmy Galicia: PMi
[2010/11/09 11:17] Nebadon Izumi: hello Jacek
[2010/11/09 11:18] Jacek Antonelli waves
[2010/11/09 11:18] Richardus Raymaker: do we need a new TV script to ?
[2010/11/09 11:18] Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: I presume that the revision you're upgrading to is very recent? ae9c4a doesn't actually appear in "git log"
[2010/11/09 11:18] Lurch Swindlehurst: Hey Sachse
[2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: ya its new LSL and a New PHP based Proxy
[2010/11/09 11:18] UnOriginal Names: is slvoice part of this upgrade? when i sign off of here, i get an slvoice.exe missing or something
[2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: its master git justin
[2010/11/09 11:18] Sammmy Galicia: wonders what a good way of streaming dvd video is.
[2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: should be
[2010/11/09 11:18] Lurch Swindlehurst: Wird das zum allgemeinen Treffpunkt am dienstag?
[2010/11/09 11:18] Nebadon Izumi: unless i copied the wrong hash
[2010/11/09 11:18] Richardus Raymaker: ask another time for new script
[2010/11/09 11:18] UnOriginal Names: sammy i have a real good link
[2010/11/09 11:18] Sammmy Galicia: really?
[2010/11/09 11:19] Justin Clark-Casey: ah no, you're right - I forgot to update
[2010/11/09 11:19] UnOriginal Names: i have to find it
[2010/11/09 11:19] UnOriginal Names: lol
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: ah heh cool
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: pheew
[2010/11/09 11:19] Sammmy Galicia has a darwin streaming server set up
[2010/11/09 11:19] Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: so the sitting problem was corrected and master is ok again now?
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: correct
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: Melanie and I went back and forth testing the sit issue on danger grid
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: appears mic broke it
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: he commented out some physics stuff
[2010/11/09 11:19] UnOriginal Names: http://myslhometv.ning.com/forum/topics/play-videos-stored-on-your-pc
[2010/11/09 11:19] Nebadon Izumi: and it wasnt as simple as just uncommenting it
[2010/11/09 11:19] UnOriginal Names: here is the link to stream movies from your pc
[2010/11/09 11:19] Justin Clark-Casey: his changes were quite big and weren't actually ready to be put into master
[2010/11/09 11:20] Justin Clark-Casey: he wanted more testing first - but I guess that's what it effetively got once it was in master
[2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: ya i think were pretty much back to normal now though
[2010/11/09 11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: Unoriginal, What viewer are you using? IIRC, there was one that didn't include slvoice or part of what it needed
[2010/11/09 11:20] Richardus Raymaker: still mono 2.4.2.3 here nebadon ?
[2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: no Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: mono 2.8
[2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: imprudence
[2010/11/09 11:20] Justin Clark-Casey: I suspect a change by diva has broken backward compatability for oars
[2010/11/09 11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: yup. I think that was the one that didn't include voice chat file
[2010/11/09 11:20] Justin Clark-Casey: or at least, they were already broken
[2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: there is an option
[2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: see my sim im renting from has voice..
[2010/11/09 11:20] Sammmy Galicia: thanks Unoriginal
[2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: ooo really?
[2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: i want voice
[2010/11/09 11:20] Nebadon Izumi: you have to type > save oar -version=1 myregion.oar
[2010/11/09 11:20] UnOriginal Names: lol
[2010/11/09 11:20] Andrew Hellershanks: UnOriginal: http://imprudenceviewer.org/wiki/How_to_Re-enable_Voice_Chat
[2010/11/09 11:21] Justin Clark-Casey: that option won't correctly export objects within other objects
[2010/11/09 11:21] UnOriginal Names: andrew, i've done that and it doesn't work after i log off
[2010/11/09 11:21] Justin Clark-Casey: and I think it's something like version=0.4 anyway
[2010/11/09 11:21] Nebadon Izumi: oh hrmm
[2010/11/09 11:21] UnOriginal Names: do i have to redo it all the time?
[2010/11/09 11:21] Nebadon Izumi: ok i'll have to let Diva know
[2010/11/09 11:21] Andrew Hellershanks: It shouldn't work after you log off. :-)
[2010/11/09 11:21] Nebadon Izumi: we tested it but maybe we didnt test it good enough
[2010/11/09 11:21] Andrew Hellershanks: Un, no voice chat when you return?
[2010/11/09 11:21] UnOriginal Names: ha, you know what i mean
[2010/11/09 11:21] UnOriginal Names: lol
[2010/11/09 11:22] UnOriginal Names: when i log off and sign back on, voice is gone
[2010/11/09 11:22] Andrew Hellershanks: Un, you sure it isn't just a parcel setting issue?
[2010/11/09 11:22] Richardus Raymaker: also when you wait a few seconds to let it connect ?
[2010/11/09 11:22] UnOriginal Names: nope
[2010/11/09 11:22] Nebadon Izumi: ya whenever you teleport from a region with voice
[2010/11/09 11:22] Nebadon Izumi: it will carry with you
[2010/11/09 11:22] Nebadon Izumi: its a bug
[2010/11/09 11:22] Jacek Antonelli: UnOriginal, you shouldn't do the steps on that page if you are using a recent version of Imprudence. In fact it can hurt things.
[2010/11/09 11:22] UnOriginal Names: o
[2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: there are alot of parcel update issues when teleporting
[2010/11/09 11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: I am trying to get voice chat enabled for regions. That is a big enough problem of its own
[2010/11/09 11:23] Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: btw, the async setting is now true by default - it will only still be false if people are overriding it in OpenSim.ini
[2010/11/09 11:23] UnOriginal Names: ok
[2010/11/09 11:23] Richardus Raymaker: voice works out of the box with my imprucence
[2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: music and parcel settings will carry with you from previous sim
[2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: until you actually cross a parcel in the new sim it wont update
[2010/11/09 11:23] Nebadon Izumi: we need to fix that soon
[2010/11/09 11:23] UnOriginal Names: andrew, are you looking for a parcel with voice?
[2010/11/09 11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm trying to get voice working in OpenSIm
[2010/11/09 11:24] UnOriginal Names: aww
[2010/11/09 11:24] Nebadon Izumi: Andrew you should talk to Snoopy on IRC
[2010/11/09 11:24] Nebadon Izumi: she can help
[2010/11/09 11:24] Nebadon Izumi: she probably knows better than anyone how to make freeswitch work
[2010/11/09 11:24] Richardus Raymaker: it worked with 0.6.9 for em, not tried 0.7
[2010/11/09 11:24] Andrew Hellershanks: neb, ok. I try and follow the online notes in wiki's but it never seems to work for me.
[2010/11/09 11:25] Andrew Hellershanks: or it only worked for one parcel
[2010/11/09 11:25] Richardus Raymaker: here comes some maby usefull links
[2010/11/09 11:25] Richardus Raymaker: http://maxping.org/resources/how-to/install/freeswitch-on-ubunutu.aspx
[2010/11/09 11:25] Andrew Hellershanks: Don't know why there isn't a new pre-compiled version of FreeSwitch on their site. They only have 1.0.4 but 1.0.6 is the most recent
[2010/11/09 11:26] Andrew Hellershanks: Richardus, I was trying to put it on Windows servers
[2010/11/09 11:26] Nebadon Izumi: I have only ever done freeswitch on Linux
[2010/11/09 11:26] Nebadon Izumi: Bluewall and I worked on it ages ago
[2010/11/09 11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: it shouldn't be that different unless 1.0.4 is broken and you need something more recent
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: but once OSgrid got Vivox we shut freeswitch off
[2010/11/09 11:27] Richardus Raymaker: oh, only done it under linux
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: but now we dont have Vivox anymore
[2010/11/09 11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: Vivox? Isn't that the one you had to pay for?
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: i havent looked at the voice stuff in ages
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: yes
[2010/11/09 11:27] Richardus Raymaker: opensim works with 1.0.6
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: They donated a 20,000 user license to us for a while
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: but i think they got cold feet on the deal
[2010/11/09 11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: Nice of them
[2010/11/09 11:27] BlueWall Slade: I started working with it again, but vivox posted some message about not using the client outside SL
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: decided there was no profit in OpenSimulator for them
[2010/11/09 11:27] Nebadon Izumi: and they pulled out of the deal
[2010/11/09 11:28] Richardus Raymaker: big head madness ?
[2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: honeslty Vivox is not a good fit for OpenSim
[2010/11/09 11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: I'll compile fs 1.0.6 for Linux and see if I can make that work. If it does, I'll have to install a C compiler for Windows and build my own FS there.
[2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: the minimum license package is 20,000 users
[2010/11/09 11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: wow.
[2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: they are used to dealing with vendors that need 500,000 account packages
[2010/11/09 11:28] Nebadon Izumi: like Linden Lab
[2010/11/09 11:30] Richardus Raymaker: i think its bad business for them to keep big packadges like that. especially when you get only more and more small grids and sims
[2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: well Vivox is a gigantic company
[2010/11/09 11:30] Richardus Raymaker: company's that want own sim dont need 20.000
[2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: they deal with EA, and Ubisoft and Linden Lab
[2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: companies like that
[2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: there is no profit it in for them to sell 50 user accounts
[2010/11/09 11:30] Richardus Raymaker: then go for mumble
[2010/11/09 11:30] Nebadon Izumi: ya
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: I hope snoopy's group can get that stuff licensed properly and available for everyone
[2010/11/09 11:31] Justin Clark-Casey: afaik mumble for opensim was never released, right?
[2010/11/09 11:31] Justin Clark-Casey: licensing is the hold up?
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: the source was not yet
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: not sure why they are taking so long
[2010/11/09 11:31] BlueWall Slade: mumble is open
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: they havent nailed down a license though
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: I mean the OpenSim stuff
[2010/11/09 11:31] BlueWall Slade: the whisper isn't
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: not mumble itself
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: ya
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: ya Whisper
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: i couldnt remember what it was called
[2010/11/09 11:31] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/11/09 11:32] Richardus Raymaker: sofar i kow its not finished for all platforms
[2010/11/09 11:32] Justin Clark-Casey: unless they're somehow using proprietary code in their plugin I'm not sure what the hold up would be
[2010/11/09 11:32] Dorothea Lundquist is Offline
[2010/11/09 11:32] Andrew Hellershanks: Richardus, I like that maxping site. Info on setting up FS for Ubuntu and it is an asp page
[2010/11/09 11:32] Nebadon Izumi: ya i know it was only windows so far
[2010/11/09 11:32] Nebadon Izumi: i'll ask snoopy whats up when we talk again
[2010/11/09 11:32] Richardus Raymaker: lol andrew. not looked at the asp
[2010/11/09 11:33] Andrew Hellershanks: ASP is Windows. I haven't touched ASP
[2010/11/09 11:33] Richardus Raymaker: so, to ask again at 01.00 utc osgrid switches to new vesion ?
[2010/11/09 11:33] Richardus Raymaker: i know andrew.
[2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: yes Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: grid will be down for a few mintues
[2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: as i switch it over
[2010/11/09 11:33] Nebadon Izumi: then everyone can run new version
[2010/11/09 11:34] Andrew Hellershanks: The one thing about setting up FS was when you can use localhost references in the OpenSim.ini file to simplify set up when copying an ini to multiple servers
[2010/11/09 11:34] Richardus Raymaker: it ould be nice if somneone could track of possible required changes in ini files. but i dont think much changed this time
[2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: I already did Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 11:35] sim core: :-J
[2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: did you even read the news pages?
[2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: there is 1 change that is not required
[2010/11/09 11:35] Richardus Raymaker: yes i saw nebadon. but it where maby only this time. thansk
[2010/11/09 11:35] Helena Franizzi is Offline
[2010/11/09 11:35] Richardus Raymaker: made that change some time ago
[2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: really there are no mandatory changes
[2010/11/09 11:35] sim core: :-J And it's there, by default
[2010/11/09 11:35] Nebadon Izumi: just the async packet handling option
[2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: ya i think currently its automaticlly on true anyway
[2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: but that might not always be the case
[2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: depending on how testing goes
[2010/11/09 11:36] Richardus Raymaker: hmm, nebadon. if you play video and press stop the screen stay grey. just like there's no texture loaded
[2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: i think for most everyone it will be an improvment
[2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: ya ive seen that happen to Richardus
[2010/11/09 11:36] Nebadon Izumi: not sure why it does that
[2010/11/09 11:36] Justin Clark-Casey: I see http://www.osgrid.org/stats/ went away?
[2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: it will eventually switch back
[2010/11/09 11:37] Richardus Raymaker: ok.
[2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: ya i havent set that back up yet Justin
[2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: something i gotta do still
[2010/11/09 11:37] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, no worries- just curious
[2010/11/09 11:37] Nebadon Izumi: we still have a lot of website work to do still
[2010/11/09 11:37] Justin Clark-Casey: yeah, I imagine
[2010/11/09 11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: I've been trying to get motivated to do some website work I need to do.
[2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya
[2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: php stuff is not very exciting anymore
[2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 11:38] Nebadon Izumi: its starting to feel like spreadsheet work or something
[2010/11/09 11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: Its neat seeing the result but a little tedious to get thigns set up
[2010/11/09 11:39] Andrew Hellershanks: what I need to do isn't even as interesting as PHP work. Its writing content.
[2010/11/09 11:39] Justin Clark-Casey: I think that's one of the reasons why people swtich to RoR :)
[2010/11/09 11:39] Andrew Hellershanks: I don't know Ruby
[2010/11/09 11:39] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya me either
[2010/11/09 11:39] Nebadon Izumi: i hear mixed things about it
[2010/11/09 11:40] Andrew Hellershanks: It does seem interesting on the one hand. I wanted to get in to Python first
[2010/11/09 11:40] Jacek Antonelli hisses and makes the sign of the cross to ward off Rails.
[2010/11/09 11:40] Justin Clark-Casey: yes
[2010/11/09 11:40] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 11:40] Andrew Hellershanks: Jacek, :-)
[2010/11/09 11:40] Justin Clark-Casey: jacek: ha, really? :)
[2010/11/09 11:41] Richardus Raymaker: i wish there where a good PHP IDE development for linux.
[2010/11/09 11:41] Jacek Antonelli: I absolutely adore Ruby, but despise Rails. I think of it as Ruby's douchebag boyfriend.
[2010/11/09 11:41] BlueWall Slade: eclipse
[2010/11/09 11:41] Justin Clark-Casey: lol, alright :)
[2010/11/09 11:41] Richardus Raymaker: uff, very complex. i think it never worked good here. need to test again
[2010/11/09 11:41] Andrew Hellershanks: Eclipse is the one I think
[2010/11/09 11:41] Justin Clark-Casey: richardus: aptana seems quite good. I've just started using it for javascript
[2010/11/09 11:41] Justin Clark-Casey: I finally got tired of writing in vim
[2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: yeah, aptana is on eclipse
[2010/11/09 11:42] Jacek Antonelli: If you want a nice lightweight web framework for Ruby, Sinatra is very nice. But, other languages are good too.
[2010/11/09 11:42] BlueWall Slade: dont' let Melanie hear you say that :p
[2010/11/09 11:42] Andrew Hellershanks: I think Eclipse is one of those things that handles all kinds of languages. I haven't really used an IDE since I last used Borland C
[2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: eclipse does java by default but you can get a lot of plugins.
[2010/11/09 11:42] Richardus Raymaker: need to find aptana. and compile it myself i guess
[2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: aptana is a whole framework for editing html/css/js, etc.
[2010/11/09 11:42] BlueWall Slade: eclipse/aptania does python too
[2010/11/09 11:42] Justin Clark-Casey: http://www.aptana.com/
[2010/11/09 11:43] Justin Clark-Casey: yeah, I heard they just re-enabled their php support
[2010/11/09 11:43] Richardus Raymaker: oh thats problem with many software. does it support largere fonts higher dpi ?
[2010/11/09 11:43] Richardus Raymaker: i think thats why i stopped useing both
[2010/11/09 11:43] Richardus Raymaker: python. thats nice
[2010/11/09 11:43] Justin Clark-Casey: you can change all kinds of font and size settings in eclipse. Anyway, this is kind of offtopic
[2010/11/09 11:44] Richardus Raymaker: so, uhmm what topic now ?
[2010/11/09 11:44] Andrew Hellershanks: Spin the wheel of topics and see what comes up. :-)
[2010/11/09 11:45] sim core: Where to find info on ossl, would be nice ;)
[2010/11/09 11:45] Jacek Antonelli: New topic: Kittens. Cute animals, or _the cutest_ animals?
[2010/11/09 11:46] Justin Clark-Casey: in theory http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OSSL_Implemented but it's out of date
[2010/11/09 11:46] Penny Lane: I spun the topics arrow, and it landed on "Neb's socks drawer". That can't be right.
[2010/11/09 11:46] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 11:46] Jacek Antonelli wonders what secret things are hidden in his sock drawer...
[2010/11/09 11:46] Justin Clark-Casey: jacek: I'm preferring bacteria nowadays
[2010/11/09 11:46] Richardus Raymaker: i hope with the new version i can attach some attachments again.
[2010/11/09 11:46] sim core: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OsParcelSetDetails has absolutely no details on there
[2010/11/09 11:46] Justin Clark-Casey: well you know, ppl just don't write documentation
[2010/11/09 11:46] sim core: Hehe
[2010/11/09 11:47] Jacek Antonelli: Are bacteria cute? I guess kittens are cute partly because they are small... so maybe bacteria are even cuter, because they are even smaller?
[2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 11:47] Justin Clark-Casey: lol
[2010/11/09 11:47] sim core: I will do the sun setting page, I figured that much out...
[2010/11/09 11:47] BlueWall Slade: I added the parcel id to llGetParcelDetails
[2010/11/09 11:47] BlueWall Slade: it's still setting in mantis
[2010/11/09 11:47] Justin Clark-Casey: The bit in my brain that recognizes 'cute' is missing
[2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: did that patch ever make it into core yet BlueWall?
[2010/11/09 11:47] BlueWall Slade: no
[2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: maybe justin can you take a look at that?
[2010/11/09 11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: jacek, nah. Can't see bacteria with the naked eye. They also don't purr
[2010/11/09 11:47] Nebadon Izumi: whats the Mantis again bluewall?
[2010/11/09 11:48] BlueWall Slade: let me see - 1 sec
[2010/11/09 11:48] Nebadon Izumi: it looked like a simple enough patch
[2010/11/09 11:48] Justin Clark-Casey: but they are fascinating creatures
[2010/11/09 11:48] BlueWall Slade: http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5188
[2010/11/09 11:48] Nebadon Izumi: only the squigly eye line
[2010/11/09 11:48] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/11/09 11:48] Andrew Hellershanks: sim you are looking for the flag bit settings for parcel details?
[2010/11/09 11:48] BlueWall Slade: I didn't look at viewer source yet, lol
[2010/11/09 11:49] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, so just submitted yesterday
[2010/11/09 11:49] Dedal Chrome: Hello
[2010/11/09 11:49] Justin Clark-Casey: when I can on a friday I look at the outstanding patches and aply them. I was busy last fri
[2010/11/09 11:49] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Dedal
[2010/11/09 11:49] Justin Clark-Casey: bluewall: heh
[2010/11/09 11:49] Helena Franizzi is Online
[2010/11/09 11:49] Dedal Chrome: i just login in and im interesting what diferents is betwen sl and osgrid?
[2010/11/09 11:49] Richardus Raymaker: fryday 13th 2013 ?
[2010/11/09 11:50] Justin Clark-Casey: so, you guys using kokua?
[2010/11/09 11:50] Justin Clark-Casey: yep, fri 13th :)
[2010/11/09 11:50] Richardus Raymaker: no
[2010/11/09 11:50] Dedal Chrome: can someone tell me :)
[2010/11/09 11:50] BlueWall Slade: SL - it breaks, it never gets fixed ....
[2010/11/09 11:50] BlueWall Slade: OpenSim - it breaks, you get to fix it
[2010/11/09 11:50] BlueWall Slade: :p
[2010/11/09 11:51] Justin Clark-Casey smiles
[2010/11/09 11:51] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/11/09 11:51] Justin Clark-Casey: both are quite capable of screwing you over ;)
[2010/11/09 11:51] Dedal Chrome: its onlu diferent :)
[2010/11/09 11:51] Andrew Hellershanks: kokua?
[2010/11/09 11:51] Nebadon Izumi: no Economy here
[2010/11/09 11:51] sim core: :-) Well, the rukes list would be nice andrew OsParcelSetDetails,Threat-Level=High,Returns: NULL,Command: osParcelSetDetails(vector pos, list rules) ;,Requires Examples.
[2010/11/09 11:52] Andrew Hellershanks: sim, let me check the source file
[2010/11/09 11:52] sim core: *Rules
[2010/11/09 11:52] Dedal Chrome: i see upload is free
[2010/11/09 11:52] Nebadon Izumi: yes there are no charges here
[2010/11/09 11:53] Nebadon Izumi: only charges would be if you lease hardware to host your simulators
[2010/11/09 11:53] Dedal Chrome: host my simulator ?
[2010/11/09 11:53] Nebadon Izumi: if you wanted to run your own simulator
[2010/11/09 11:53] Dedal Chrome: you mean sim ?
[2010/11/09 11:53] sim core: :-)
[2010/11/09 11:53] Nebadon Izumi: yes
[2010/11/09 11:53] Richardus Raymaker: yes run it from home, rent dedicated server and host it yourself. or.....
[2010/11/09 11:53] UnOriginal Names: omg it's good to have food in the tummy
[2010/11/09 11:54] Nebadon Izumi: you can run it from home for Free
[2010/11/09 11:54] Nebadon Izumi: but alot of people rent servers in data centers
[2010/11/09 11:54] Dedal Chrome: ohh interesting
[2010/11/09 11:54] UnOriginal Names: or pay a small fee to rent a sim
[2010/11/09 11:54] Miki.Gymnast @tikitronic.com: good evening
[2010/11/09 11:54] Penny Lane: Dedal, I'll give you a landmark to Lbsa Plaza, where there's a lot of good info and socializing.
[2010/11/09 11:54] Dedal Chrome: thnks
[2010/11/09 11:54] Justin Clark-Casey: hello miki
[2010/11/09 11:54] Dedal Chrome: i have last questions ;)
[2010/11/09 11:55] Dedal Chrome: is diferent betwen OS$ and L$ ?
[2010/11/09 11:55] Dedal Chrome: i mean price for real money
[2010/11/09 11:55] Nebadon Izumi: we dont do any currency in the grid here
[2010/11/09 11:55] BlueWall Slade: we're broke here
[2010/11/09 11:55] BlueWall Slade: no money
[2010/11/09 11:55] UnOriginal Names: lol
[2010/11/09 11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: sim, did you look at http://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llGetParcelDetails
[2010/11/09 11:55] UnOriginal Names: everything is free
[2010/11/09 11:55] Dedal Chrome: ohhh thnks :)
[2010/11/09 11:55] BlueWall Slade: look for Snoopies
[2010/11/09 11:55] Andrew Hellershanks: sim, that is a get but looking at the os function to set details, it appears to follow that same structure
[2010/11/09 11:55] Miki.Gymnast @tikitronic.com: i sell you 500 os$ if you transfer me 20kL$ in sl
[2010/11/09 11:55] BlueWall Slade: they gave lots of free things
[2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: some grids do have emerging economies
[2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: but OSgrid is a Non-Profit corporation
[2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: we intend to keep this grid free of a grid wide economy and currency
[2010/11/09 11:56] UnOriginal Names: ooo, emergingi economies, which one?
[2010/11/09 11:56] Dedal Chrome: ok thnks for anser now i will go to se this LM
[2010/11/09 11:56] Dedal Chrome: Bye
[2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: heh sorry i wont promote them
[2010/11/09 11:56] UnOriginal Names: lol
[2010/11/09 11:56] Nebadon Izumi: im sure if you google you can find some
[2010/11/09 11:57] sim core: :-) Good idea andrew, I'll report my testing then
[2010/11/09 11:58] sim core: :-) Thanks
[2010/11/09 11:58] Andrew Hellershanks: sim: yw
[2010/11/09 11:58] Justin Clark-Casey: nebadon: did this seating change? I see we're all a bit recessed no the couch now
[2010/11/09 11:58] Justin Clark-Casey: on
[2010/11/09 11:58] Andrew Hellershanks: sim, if it works ok, you can update the wiki page for that function. :-)
[2010/11/09 11:58] sim core: :-) Indeed
[2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: ya i rebuilt the couch a bit Justin
[2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: same basic shape
[2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: the old one not as cushiony
[2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/11/09 11:59] Andrew Hellershanks: I thought the couch was a little different
[2010/11/09 11:59] Nebadon Izumi: i need some better sit poses
[2010/11/09 11:59] Justin Clark-Casey: Don't think I've seen a couch anywhere near this big irl
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: ya
[2010/11/09 12:00] Andrew Hellershanks: :-)
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: you would need a megaphone in real world
[2010/11/09 12:00] Jacek Antonelli: This is EPIC COUCH.
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 12:00] Richardus Raymaker: uhmm coverments ?
[2010/11/09 12:00] Justin Clark-Casey: this is truly god's own couch
[2010/11/09 12:00] BlueWall Slade: heh, I remember when we had something liek stadium seating here
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: hehehe
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: lol ya ive gone through all kinds of configurations here
[2010/11/09 12:00] Nebadon Izumi: i think this is the best so far
[2010/11/09 12:00] BlueWall Slade: back when the Lindens used to visit
[2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya
[2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: i remember when the meetings were out front
[2010/11/09 12:01] Andrew Hellershanks: There is a raw file called Stadium that makes the land like one massive stadium
[2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: on the landing zone
[2010/11/09 12:01] BlueWall Slade: yep, lol
[2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: i remember seeing that before Andrew
[2010/11/09 12:01] Justin Clark-Casey: oh yeah, those were the days
[2010/11/09 12:01] Nebadon Izumi: ya this region has come a long way
[2010/11/09 12:02] BlueWall Slade: hehe, we were out there when that Linden said "Did you build all this in OpenSim"
[2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: http://www.youtube.com/nebadon2025#p/u/126/ZBgQGOskXis
[2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: lol ya
[2010/11/09 12:02] BlueWall Slade: "Nahhh - we stole it off your grid"
[2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: i remember that
[2010/11/09 12:02] BlueWall Slade: hehe
[2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: I think thats the day LL started to panic
[2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: that OpenSim might actually turn into a monster
[2010/11/09 12:02] Nebadon Izumi: hehe
[2010/11/09 12:03] BlueWall Slade: and logging into the OGP beta grid and jumping here with Hypergrid
[2010/11/09 12:03] BlueWall Slade: lol
[2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: that video link above
[2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: you can see Wright Plaza in the early days
[2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: back when you could poke your eye out on the sharp bushes
[2010/11/09 12:03] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 12:03] BlueWall Slade: Haaa
[2010/11/09 12:03] UnOriginal Names: video is dark
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: wow
[2010/11/09 12:04] Justin Clark-Casey: ok, I need to get back to work. See you later, folks
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: look at the date on that video
[2010/11/09 12:04] BlueWall Slade: see ya JCC
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: 11/10/2007
[2010/11/09 12:04] sim core: :-) See-you, justin and all
[2010/11/09 12:04] UnOriginal Names: bye justin
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: thats exaclty 3 years ago
[2010/11/09 12:04] Richardus Raymaker: bye justin
[2010/11/09 12:04] Justin Clark-Casey waves
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: see ya Justin
[2010/11/09 12:04] Jacek Antonelli: take care JCC
[2010/11/09 12:04] Richardus Raymaker: hmm, try to move my cam in that move :)))
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: im probably going to have to run soon myself im waiting on Cable Guys to get here
[2010/11/09 12:04] Justin Clark-Casey is Offline
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: to rewire my cable modem
[2010/11/09 12:04] Nebadon Izumi: keeps cutting out on me at the worst moments
[2010/11/09 12:05] Jacek Antonelli: good luck Neb
[2010/11/09 12:05] BlueWall Slade: hope the nab it for you
[2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: ya hopefully they dont show up right before the grid upgrade
[2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: they said after 1pm
[2010/11/09 12:05] BlueWall Slade: hehe
[2010/11/09 12:05] Nebadon Izumi: my lluck they'll show up 1 minute before i have to start upgrade
[2010/11/09 12:05] BlueWall Slade: give them cookies and milk and have them wait till you're done
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: hehe ya
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: it wont take them long
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: the modem will probably only be out for a few minutes
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: most of the time will be running cable
[2010/11/09 12:06] BlueWall Slade: is this your Pink Floyd video?
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: this is up on youtube
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: i didnt upload it
[2010/11/09 12:06] Andrew Hellershanks: I need to bug my cable guys about drop outs I'm getting.
[2010/11/09 12:06] BlueWall Slade: ahhh, cool
[2010/11/09 12:06] Tasha Violet is Offline
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: it just crapped out on me
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: it will start again
[2010/11/09 12:06] Nebadon Izumi: just wait
[2010/11/09 12:06] Jacek Antonelli: I think I'll head out too. Take care, all :)
[2010/11/09 12:06] BlueWall Slade: here too
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: I think imprudence has issues
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: streaming
[2010/11/09 12:07] BlueWall Slade: bye
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: its gstreamer
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: see you Jacek
[2010/11/09 12:07] Andrew Hellershanks: gstreamer :-P
[2010/11/09 12:07] UnOriginal Names: bye jacek
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: id like to see Imprudence switch over to ffmpeg
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: instead of gstreamer
[2010/11/09 12:07] Nebadon Izumi: imprudence+gstreamer has problems with long videos and syncing
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: it will eventually resync though
[2010/11/09 12:08] Andrew Hellershanks: I had lots of headaches trying to get video in SL/OS since it wanted to use gstreamer in Linux. Problem kind of went away after I switched distros
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: ya
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: gstreamer is ok
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: quicktime would do much better
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: with these massively long videos
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: this video is 1 hour 20 minutes
[2010/11/09 12:08] Nebadon Izumi: its like 350meg
[2010/11/09 12:08] Andrew Hellershanks: gstreamer worked fine for me outside of SL/OS and a viewer but trying to get the viewer happy to use it was a pita
[2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: ya its probably just different versions you get differnt results
[2010/11/09 12:09] Andrew Hellershanks: 350meg file is about 45 minute video for me.
[2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: well,
[2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: there are a crap load of extras for gstreamer too
[2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: it went south on me at the same time as you neb
[2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: Andrew depends on the resolution and bitrate really
[2010/11/09 12:09] Andrew Hellershanks: I had them all and it still wasn't working at first
[2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: so, what's up with that?
[2010/11/09 12:09] BlueWall Slade: couldn't be the viewer??
[2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: ya its something in the viewer Bluewall
[2010/11/09 12:09] Nebadon Izumi: it is we tested it
[2010/11/09 12:09] Andrew Hellershanks: I had gstreamer and the good, bad, and ugly add ons
[2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: both at the same time?
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: we ran it in the viewer and mplayer
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: at the same time
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: and all 3 will hesitate at the same moment
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: but mplayer recovers instantly
[2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: ok
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: and the viewer struggles to recover
[2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: I see, there was a blip in the service
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: ya
[2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: and Imp can't re-sync it
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: it will snap back eventually, it does suck
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: right
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: not as fast anyway
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: there
[2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: there is is
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: its back
[2010/11/09 12:10] Nebadon Izumi: did it come back for you?
[2010/11/09 12:10] BlueWall Slade: yes
[2010/11/09 12:10] UnOriginal Names is Online
[2010/11/09 12:11] Nebadon Izumi: heh ya
[2010/11/09 12:11] BlueWall Slade: same instant
[2010/11/09 12:11] Sammmy Galicia: Speaking of Imprudence, how do you think the Kokua Client/Server will help develop Opensim
[2010/11/09 12:11] Nebadon Izumi: oh door brb
[2010/11/09 12:11] BlueWall Slade: hmmmm
[2010/11/09 12:11] UnOriginal Names: hb
[2010/11/09 12:11] Sammmy Galicia likes big topics lol
[2010/11/09 12:12] UnOriginal Names: omg my sim is still down
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: heh cable guy is here
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: yay
[2010/11/09 12:13] BlueWall Slade: hehe
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: if i drop off you know why
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: lol
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: hes gotta dig new lines in 1st
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: runnning all new cable outside
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: what a pain
[2010/11/09 12:13] BlueWall Slade: ohhh man, that should be nice
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: ya
[2010/11/09 12:13] Nebadon Izumi: hopefully my damn net stops dropping
[2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: and i dont get disconnect from 15 SSH windows simulataneiously
[2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: grr
[2010/11/09 12:14] Andrew Hellershanks: yeah, we had new lines run when I first got cable access to the net
[2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: what a pain in the ass that is
[2010/11/09 12:14] Andrew Hellershanks: 15?
[2010/11/09 12:14] Niki Bing: excuse me folks, is this the wright place for the osgrid meeting?
[2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: lol ya
[2010/11/09 12:14] Nebadon Izumi: i have a bunch of servers
[2010/11/09 12:14] UnOriginal Names: yes it is niki
[2010/11/09 12:15] Andrew Hellershanks: Its winding down. Start just over an hour ago
[2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: yes Niki bu the meeting is pretty much over
[2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: ya its 11am PST every tuesday
[2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: but feel free to hang out and chat
[2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: we always run over the hour chatting for a bit
[2010/11/09 12:15] Niki Bing: thx ... oh right, well I'm pretty much challenged time-zonally so no suprises there ... but thx, I'll know for next time :)
[2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: hehe ya
[2010/11/09 12:15] Nebadon Izumi: it sucks
[2010/11/09 12:16] Nebadon Izumi: especially during the DST windows
[2010/11/09 12:16] Andrew Hellershanks: I really should get going. I have a couple birthday presents to wrap and I really should get more work done on the website I'm supposed to be working on.
[2010/11/09 12:16] Nebadon Izumi: hehe alright Andrew
[2010/11/09 12:16] Nebadon Izumi: thanks for coming
[2010/11/09 12:16] BlueWall Slade: heh, have fun
[2010/11/09 12:16] BlueWall Slade: I'm taking off too
[2010/11/09 12:16] Andrew Hellershanks: np. I like to hear more about what's going on.
[2010/11/09 12:16] Nebadon Izumi: oh bluewall here is the URL for pink floyd
[2010/11/09 12:16] Nebadon Izumi: its 1 parts
[2010/11/09 12:16] Nebadon Izumi: its like 2 1/2 hours
[2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV6PKfzkbeo
[2010/11/09 12:17] Andrew Hellershanks: Once I get some of the web page content done I can get back to trying to finish classifieds in the profile module
[2010/11/09 12:17] BlueWall Slade: cool
[2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEweoQMM_WM
[2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: there is an awesome kraftwerk concert too
[2010/11/09 12:17] BlueWall Slade: thanks, copied it down
[2010/11/09 12:17] Andrew Hellershanks: Be interesting to check that out, nebadon
[2010/11/09 12:17] Nebadon Izumi: kraftwerk part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve5sXX_2LU0
[2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: kraftwerk part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_grfKZGtY
[2010/11/09 12:18] Andrew Hellershanks: cool. ty
[2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: its awesome concert
[2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: see ya :)
[2010/11/09 12:18] BlueWall Slade: thanks
[2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: no problem :) enjoy
[2010/11/09 12:18] BlueWall Slade: upgrade - 5:00 pst ?
[2010/11/09 12:18] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, take care everyone. Happy update day. :-)
[2010/11/09 12:18] Nebadon Izumi: yes
[2010/11/09 12:19] BlueWall Slade: cool