[Opensim-dev] Harvesting code from forks of Opensim

[Dahlia Trimble]

Just to clarify on the slight chance it was missed, I wasn't suggesting
anyone "fork off" in any sense of the term. Many forks, both public and
private, already exist and I suspect more will come about.  My hope is that
the community will survuve and even thrive beyond any code fork.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Morgaine <morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Dahlia writes:
> *> I'd like to see disagreement and forks as a means to drive innovation
> rather than conflict.*
>
> More often than not, real project forking into separate projects (not just
> forking in the github sense) implies an inability or lack of desire to find
> a meeting of minds with technical peers.
>
> If requirements are dramatically different then project forking can be a
> very reasonable way forward, and to the benefit of everybody.  But if the
> requirements are really quite similar then forking is more likely an
> indication of inflexibility and intransigence by one or both parties.  The
> communal engineering process has probably failed.
>
> This is a technical project, so it's inherently different to discussing
> the merits of cat pictures -- discussions can be objective.  A rationally
> presented suggestion or even a strong criticism presented in good faith is
> not a reason for telling people to fork off.  If that is the response then
> it's a sign of extreme project ill health.
>
> Negative feedback is intrinsic to good engineering, and all good engineers
> embrace it.  That's not theoretical.  Without it a project's direction
> would never change to take into consideration the bitter lessons of
> experience.
>
> Morgaine.
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Dahlia Trimble <dahliatrimble at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Apparently there is still a fair bit of passion about this platform and I
>> prefer to see this in a manner where people can use the code in a way they
>> see fit and to (hopefully) contribute back something or pay it forward in
>> other ways as appropriate. I'm not opposed to forks but I'd hope civil
>> discourse can be maintained even through the times when much disagreement
>> looms. I would hope that various forks and branches could benefit from each
>> other and the community as a whole can thereby benefit. I'd like to see
>> disagreement and forks as a means to drive innovation rather than conflict.
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Morgaine <morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Good data, thanks Cinder.  It doesn't look like death to me.
>>>
>>> You clearly have some elite query-foo skills, can you generate a
>>> historical list of commits per month and per year?  This is a very strong
>>> way of debunking allegations of death!  :P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Cinder Roxley <
>>> cinder at alchemyviewer.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2015 at 2:59:54 PM, Morgaine (morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm just an observer on this project, albeit a very long term one,
>>>> dating back to near the beginning.  One thing that long-term observers are
>>>> well qualified to do is to confirm or to deny the veracity of allegations
>>>> of long-term trends.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Chase's allegation that
>>>>
>>>> "OpenSim is slowly dieing (IMO) from neglect"
>>>>
>>>> is clearly unfounded since commits show no sign of stopping.  I haven't
>>>> checked the rate of commits so perhaps Mike has more information in this
>>>> regard.  I welcome better information.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/opensimulator/commits/summary
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cinder Roxley
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