[Opensim-dev] Harvesting code from forks of Opensim

[Morgaine]

Dahlia writes:
*> I'd like to see disagreement and forks as a means to drive innovation
rather than conflict.*

More often than not, real project forking into separate projects (not just
forking in the github sense) implies an inability or lack of desire to find
a meeting of minds with technical peers.

If requirements are dramatically different then project forking can be a
very reasonable way forward, and to the benefit of everybody.  But if the
requirements are really quite similar then forking is more likely an
indication of inflexibility and intransigence by one or both parties.  The
communal engineering process has probably failed.

This is a technical project, so it's inherently different to discussing the
merits of cat pictures -- discussions can be objective.  A rationally
presented suggestion or even a strong criticism presented in good faith is
not a reason for telling people to fork off.  If that is the response then
it's a sign of extreme project ill health.

Negative feedback is intrinsic to good engineering, and all good engineers
embrace it.  That's not theoretical.  Without it a project's direction
would never change to take into consideration the bitter lessons of
experience.

Morgaine.


On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Dahlia Trimble <dahliatrimble at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Apparently there is still a fair bit of passion about this platform and I
> prefer to see this in a manner where people can use the code in a way they
> see fit and to (hopefully) contribute back something or pay it forward in
> other ways as appropriate. I'm not opposed to forks but I'd hope civil
> discourse can be maintained even through the times when much disagreement
> looms. I would hope that various forks and branches could benefit from each
> other and the community as a whole can thereby benefit. I'd like to see
> disagreement and forks as a means to drive innovation rather than conflict.
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Morgaine <morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Good data, thanks Cinder.  It doesn't look like death to me.
>>
>> You clearly have some elite query-foo skills, can you generate a
>> historical list of commits per month and per year?  This is a very strong
>> way of debunking allegations of death!  :P
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Cinder Roxley <cinder at alchemyviewer.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On May 26, 2015 at 2:59:54 PM, Morgaine (morgaine.dinova at googlemail.com)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm just an observer on this project, albeit a very long term one,
>>> dating back to near the beginning.  One thing that long-term observers are
>>> well qualified to do is to confirm or to deny the veracity of allegations
>>> of long-term trends.
>>>
>>> Mike Chase's allegation that
>>>
>>> "OpenSim is slowly dieing (IMO) from neglect"
>>>
>>> is clearly unfounded since commits show no sign of stopping.  I haven't
>>> checked the rate of commits so perhaps Mike has more information in this
>>> regard.  I welcome better information.
>>>
>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/opensimulator/commits/summary
>>>
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