[Opensim-dev] OpenSim's direction after Linden cutting support, and the possibility of an official OpenSim viewer
R.Gunther
rigun at rigutech.nl
Tue Dec 11 20:24:08 UTC 2012
Firestorm bloated ? there some bugs that make it not useable for me. As
example i cannot use teapot because there's no vector copy in edit.
A viewer need to have at least the following extra things.
-Radar
-AO
-Advanced edit tools, like vector copy and texture align, also the wider
setting with numbers, like hollow = 99
-Mesh view and upload !
Further is the V3 notification system much nicer to have, also the way
you can arrange buttons.
Sofar i cannot think about more things then what we have inside
singularity V1
On 2012-12-11 21:04, Mircea Kitsune wrote:
> I noticed most users prefer Firestorm and it's considered the best
> third-party viewer at this day. Although it's a thing of personal
> preference, I am a bit worried that Firestorm gets all the attention,
> since I'm not seeing any of the other viewers getting mentioned much
> since Firestorm is there. Like I said I don't like it because it's
> very bloated and slow... the ideal viewer for me is one just like the
> official SL client but with a grid manager, build / upload limits
> removed, and new features added.
>
> As far as I know the Second Life viewer is GPL licensed, so
> distributing it should be possible like any other GPL software.
> Excluding the Havoc library which supposedly caused OpenSim support to
> go away. Changes unrelated to the Havoc lib should always be GPL too,
> so if LL adds something that OpenSim viewer can integrate it should be
> ok. OpenSim is MIT licensed if I remember right, but there's nothing
> wrong with distributing a MIT code and a GPL one under the same name
> and website.
>
> Building a viewer from scratch is something I don't believe will
> happen or needs to happen. It would be an enormous amount of work,
> only to achieve something very similar to what's already there. The SL
> viewer just needs work in places where Linden didn't give it much
> attention, but is well optimized in many areas.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:55:28 +0100
> From: garmin.kawaguichi at magalaxie.com
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] OpenSim's direction after Linden cutting
> support, and the possibility of an official OpenSim viewer
>
> I much prefer using Firestorm for OpenSim since developers have
> clearly separated Opensim version from the SL one. Firestorm 431 31155
> version is very powerful and there are of course some lacks.
> But Firestorm developers are very responsive and they opened a section
> OpenSim in their Jira (successfully tested).
>
> On the other hand, we can always think that people who have made a
> server would be best placed to make a viewer. Except that this would
> lead to a paradoxical situation where OpenSim developers ask Linden
> Lab permission to use sources V2/3/4, keeping in mind that the issue
> of licenses would remain the same that withthe SL viewer and the
> viewer FireStorm.
>
> As for building a viewer from scratch, as did our realXtend friends
> .... it's difficult to gather enough people and get results in a
> significant delay.
>
> GCI
>
>
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