[Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent

Thu Feb 3 00:05:15 UTC 2011

I apologize please send all question to us directly.

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[mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Cristina Videira
Lopes
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:03 PM
To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent

Again, *please* Kyle and others: do not send any specifics to this list, or
I'm going to turn moderation on and ban this thread altogether. 

Some of us do not want to be exposed to absolutely anything regarding any
patents. You're all doing a disservice to the project if you continue this
thread here.

STOP. 

On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Kyle wrote:

Our patent is at the application process.  It is specific to our unique
methods of using virtualization.  While Mark may use quotes around genius
referring to us and make claims the US patent system should be abolished the
fact is we have every right to patent our particular process.  

It has nothing to do with Opensim specifically.  If it is approved you will
be able to review it and send us your feedback.  We are not patenting
virtualization in regards to virtual worlds we are patenting our specific
process of developing virtual world templates and deploying them. 

We do welcome all feedback.

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[mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Mark Malewski
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:21 PM
To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent

Patents do nothing but get in the way of development and progress.

Personally, I would review any/every patent filed (based on OpenSim) and do
everything in my means to fight the legality of such "nuisance" patents.

If someone wants to "invent" something, then so be it.  But don't try to
file silly stupid "nuisance" patents just to create headaches for everyone
else that has been using the same OpenSim-based technology

Software can be copyrighted, but NOT patented.

Attempting to file "business method patents" on Open Source Software is
nothing but a nuisance for other users of the Open Source Software.  (Who
may ultimately be "infringing" on a false-claim "invention" made by someone
else.

Software patents should be abolished, and business method patents should be
abolished as well.  An invention should be original, and tangible (something
that can be held, touched, and felt).

Patenting something that is in your head (and claiming that it's "original"
and no one else ever thought of the idea, is just absurd).

Patents are a slap in the face to the Open Source Community, and filing a
patent on Open Source Software seems to be the ultimate slap in the face.

The Open Source Community is about working together, developing software,
sharing ideas (collaborating) and patents interfere with that process.  For
someone to come along, and file a patent on an original "invention" based on
community developed Open Source Software is just absurd.

Software patents make it extremely difficult for developers to develop
software (especially when there is always the threat of expensive patent
litigation).  

Patents reduce innovation, by creating "roadblocks" for others.  The current
patent system deter innovation, instead of spurring it.

There are individuals out there, that will file patents on anything they can
think of, irregardless of who actually was the FIRST to do it, and no matter
WHERE the idea came from, which is the exact opposite of what a patent is
intended for.

Patents stifle innovation, and false patent claims do nothing but create
expensive legal roadblocks (and litigation headaches) for the end users of
OpenSim software.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Shaun Erickson <ste at smxy.org> wrote:

I run all my OpenSim code on OpenSUSE 11.3 in VMs under VMware ESXi on
multiple hosts. I certainly hope they aren't trying to patent such an idea
as virtualizing OpenSim, as I know I would not stop nor would I pay
royalties.

There must be more to this than it seems on the face of it, that we just
haven't seen yet, is my guess.

-ste

On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mark Malewski <mark.malewski at gmail.com> wrote:

Now that's TRULY absurd...

They're claiming to be the FIRST to use virtualization to host OpenSim?

That's absurd.  Every single instance of OpenSim that I have running is
hosted in either VMWare, VirtualBox, or Hyper-V.  (Depending on the type of
server, and whether it's Linux or Windows based).

Nothing but hogwash... and false/absurd patent claims.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <manupool at gmail.com>
wrote:

Sorry, that was the wrong link. Here ist the correct one:

http://reactiongrid.blogspot.com/2011/02/reactiongrid-inc-files-for-us-paten
t.html

Regards, Marcus

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Michael Cerquoni <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> This article seems to make no mention of a Patent filing.  The word Patent
> is not mentioned even once.
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <manupool at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> just saw this posting. Thx to Pathfinder.
>>
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000
004150
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marcus
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