[Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent

Thu Feb 3 00:14:34 UTC 2011

@Mark Malewski
Starting opensim-dev-discussion at lists.berlios.de ?

Marcus

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Cristina Videira Lopes
<lopes at ics.uci.edu> wrote:
> Again, *please* Kyle and others: do not send any specifics to this list, or
> I'm going to turn moderation on and ban this thread altogether.
> Some of us do not want to be exposed to absolutely anything regarding any
> patents. You're all doing a disservice to the project if you continue this
> thread here.
> STOP.
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Kyle wrote:
>
> Our patent is at the application process.  It is specific to our unique
> methods of using virtualization.  While Mark may use quotes around genius
> referring to us and make claims the US patent system should be abolished the
> fact is we have every right to patent our particular process.
>
> It has nothing to do with Opensim specifically.  If it is approved you will
> be able to review it and send us your feedback.  We are not patenting
> virtualization in regards to virtual worlds we are patenting our specific
> process of developing virtual world templates and deploying them.
>
> We do welcome all feedback.
>
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> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Mark Malewski
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:21 PM
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent
>
> Patents do nothing but get in the way of development and progress.
>
> Personally, I would review any/every patent filed (based on OpenSim) and do
> everything in my means to fight the legality of such "nuisance" patents.
>
>
> If someone wants to "invent" something, then so be it.  But don't try to
> file silly stupid "nuisance" patents just to create headaches for everyone
> else that has been using the same OpenSim-based technology
>
> Software can be copyrighted, but NOT patented.
>
> Attempting to file "business method patents" on Open Source Software is
> nothing but a nuisance for other users of the Open Source Software.  (Who
> may ultimately be "infringing" on a false-claim "invention" made by someone
> else.
>
> Software patents should be abolished, and business method patents should be
> abolished as well.  An invention should be original, and tangible (something
> that can be held, touched, and felt).
>
> Patenting something that is in your head (and claiming that it's "original"
> and no one else ever thought of the idea, is just absurd).
>
> Patents are a slap in the face to the Open Source Community, and filing a
> patent on Open Source Software seems to be the ultimate slap in the face.
>
> The Open Source Community is about working together, developing software,
> sharing ideas (collaborating) and patents interfere with that process.  For
> someone to come along, and file a patent on an original "invention" based on
> community developed Open Source Software is just absurd.
>
> Software patents make it extremely difficult for developers to develop
> software (especially when there is always the threat of expensive patent
> litigation).
>
> Patents reduce innovation, by creating "roadblocks" for others.  The current
> patent system deter innovation, instead of spurring it.
>
> There are individuals out there, that will file patents on anything they can
> think of, irregardless of who actually was the FIRST to do it, and no matter
> WHERE the idea came from, which is the exact opposite of what a patent is
> intended for.
>
> Patents stifle innovation, and false patent claims do nothing but create
> expensive legal roadblocks (and litigation headaches) for the end users of
> OpenSim software.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Shaun Erickson <ste at smxy.org> wrote:
> I run all my OpenSim code on OpenSUSE 11.3 in VMs under VMware ESXi on
> multiple hosts. I certainly hope they aren't trying to patent such an idea
> as virtualizing OpenSim, as I know I would not stop nor would I pay
> royalties.
>
> There must be more to this than it seems on the face of it, that we just
> haven't seen yet, is my guess.
>
> -ste
>
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mark Malewski <mark.malewski at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now that's TRULY absurd...
>
> They're claiming to be the FIRST to use virtualization to host OpenSim?
>
> That's absurd.  Every single instance of OpenSim that I have running is
> hosted in either VMWare, VirtualBox, or Hyper-V.  (Depending on the type of
> server, and whether it's Linux or Windows based).
>
> Nothing but hogwash... and false/absurd patent claims.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <manupool at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Sorry, that was the wrong link. Here ist the correct one:
>
> http://reactiongrid.blogspot.com/2011/02/reactiongrid-inc-files-for-us-patent.html
>
> Regards, Marcus
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Michael Cerquoni <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> This article seems to make no mention of a Patent filing.  The word Patent
>> is not mentioned even once.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <manupool at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> just saw this posting. Thx to Pathfinder.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000004150
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Marcus
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