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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I apologize please send all question to us directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=312 height=130 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CBC30C.1F4A0680" alt="Description: RGD-signature-kyleV2115sharp"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cristina Videira Lopes<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Again, *please* Kyle and others: do not send any specifics to this list, or I'm going to turn moderation on and ban this thread altogether. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Some of us do not want to be exposed to absolutely anything regarding any patents. You're all doing a disservice to the project if you continue this thread here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>STOP. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Kyle wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Our patent is at the application process. It is specific to our unique methods of using virtualization. While Mark may use quotes around genius referring to us and make claims the US patent system should be abolished the fact is we have every right to patent our particular process. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It has nothing to do with Opensim specifically. If it is approved you will be able to review it and send us your feedback. We are not patenting virtualization in regards to virtual worlds we are patenting our specific process of developing virtual world templates and deploying them. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We do welcome all feedback.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><image001.jpg></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a> [<a href="mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de">mailto:opensim-dev-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Mark Malewski<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:21 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Patents do nothing but get in the way of development and progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Personally, I would review any/every patent filed (based on OpenSim) and do everything in my means to fight the legality of such "nuisance" patents.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>If someone wants to "invent" something, then so be it. But don't try to file silly stupid "nuisance" patents just to create headaches for everyone else that has been using the same OpenSim-based technology<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Software can be copyrighted, but NOT patented.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Attempting to file "business method patents" on Open Source Software is nothing but a nuisance for other users of the Open Source Software. (Who may ultimately be "infringing" on a false-claim "invention" made by someone else.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Software patents should be abolished, and business method patents should be abolished as well. An invention should be original, and tangible (something that can be held, touched, and felt).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Patenting something that is in your head (and claiming that it's "original" and no one else ever thought of the idea, is just absurd).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Patents are a slap in the face to the Open Source Community, and filing a patent on Open Source Software seems to be the ultimate slap in the face.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The Open Source Community is about working together, developing software, sharing ideas (collaborating) and patents interfere with that process. For someone to come along, and file a patent on an original "invention" based on community developed Open Source Software is just absurd.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Software patents make it extremely difficult for developers to develop software (especially when there is always the threat of expensive patent litigation). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Patents reduce innovation, by creating "roadblocks" for others. The current patent system deter innovation, instead of spurring it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>There are individuals out there, that will file patents on anything they can think of, irregardless of who actually was the FIRST to do it, and no matter WHERE the idea came from, which is the exact opposite of what a patent is intended for.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Patents stifle innovation, and false patent claims do nothing but create expensive legal roadblocks (and litigation headaches) for the end users of OpenSim software.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Shaun Erickson <<a href="mailto:ste@smxy.org">ste@smxy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I run all my OpenSim code on OpenSUSE 11.3 in VMs under VMware ESXi on multiple hosts. I certainly hope they aren't trying to patent such an idea as virtualizing OpenSim, as I know I would not stop nor would I pay royalties.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>There must be more to this than it seems on the face of it, that we just haven't seen yet, is my guess.<br><br>-ste<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br>On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mark Malewski <<a href="mailto:mark.malewski@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.malewski@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Now that's TRULY absurd...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>They're claiming to be the FIRST to use virtualization to host OpenSim?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>That's absurd. Every single instance of OpenSim that I have running is hosted in either VMWare, VirtualBox, or Hyper-V. (Depending on the type of server, and whether it's Linux or Windows based).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nothing but hogwash... and false/absurd patent claims.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <<a href="mailto:manupool@gmail.com" target="_blank">manupool@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Sorry, that was the wrong link. Here ist the correct one:<br><br><a href="http://reactiongrid.blogspot.com/2011/02/reactiongrid-inc-files-for-us-patent.html" target="_blank">http://reactiongrid.blogspot.com/2011/02/reactiongrid-inc-files-for-us-patent.html</a><br><br>Regards, Marcus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br>On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Michael Cerquoni <<a href="mailto:nebadon2025@gmail.com" target="_blank">nebadon2025@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> This article seems to make no mention of a Patent filing. The word Patent<br>> is not mentioned even once.<br>><br>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <<a href="mailto:manupool@gmail.com" target="_blank">manupool@gmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Hi everyone,<br>>><br>>> just saw this posting. Thx to Pathfinder.<br>>><br>>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000004150" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000004150</a><br>>><br>>> Regards,<br>>> Marcus<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Opensim-dev mailing list<br>>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> Michael Emory Cerquoni - Nebadon Izumi @<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://osgrid.org" target="_blank">http://osgrid.org</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Opensim-dev mailing list<br>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><br>><br>><br><br><br><br>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.marbleisle.com" target="_blank">http://www.marbleisle.com</a><br>Mobile: +49 1577 422 0000<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Opensim-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Opensim-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Opensim-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Opensim-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>