[Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent

Thu Feb 3 00:03:27 UTC 2011

Again, *please* Kyle and others: do not send any specifics to this  
list, or I'm going to turn moderation on and ban this thread altogether.

Some of us do not want to be exposed to absolutely anything regarding  
any patents. You're all doing a disservice to the project if you  
continue this thread here.

STOP.

On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Kyle wrote:

> Our patent is at the application process.  It is specific to our  
> unique methods of using virtualization.  While Mark may use quotes  
> around genius referring to us and make claims the US patent system  
> should be abolished the fact is we have every right to patent our  
> particular process.
>
> It has nothing to do with Opensim specifically.  If it is approved  
> you will be able to review it and send us your feedback.  We are not  
> patenting virtualization in regards to virtual worlds we are  
> patenting our specific process of developing virtual world templates  
> and deploying them.
>
> We do welcome all feedback.
>
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>
> From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de 
> ] On Behalf Of Mark Malewski
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:21 PM
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] ReactionGrid Inc. files for US Patent
>
> Patents do nothing but get in the way of development and progress.
>
> Personally, I would review any/every patent filed (based on OpenSim)  
> and do everything in my means to fight the legality of such  
> "nuisance" patents.
>
> If someone wants to "invent" something, then so be it.  But don't  
> try to file silly stupid "nuisance" patents just to create headaches  
> for everyone else that has been using the same OpenSim-based  
> technology
>
> Software can be copyrighted, but NOT patented.
>
> Attempting to file "business method patents" on Open Source Software  
> is nothing but a nuisance for other users of the Open Source  
> Software.  (Who may ultimately be "infringing" on a false-claim  
> "invention" made by someone else.
>
> Software patents should be abolished, and business method patents  
> should be abolished as well.  An invention should be original, and  
> tangible (something that can be held, touched, and felt).
>
> Patenting something that is in your head (and claiming that it's  
> "original" and no one else ever thought of the idea, is just absurd).
>
> Patents are a slap in the face to the Open Source Community, and  
> filing a patent on Open Source Software seems to be the ultimate  
> slap in the face.
>
> The Open Source Community is about working together, developing  
> software, sharing ideas (collaborating) and patents interfere with  
> that process.  For someone to come along, and file a patent on an  
> original "invention" based on community developed Open Source  
> Software is just absurd.
>
> Software patents make it extremely difficult for developers to  
> develop software (especially when there is always the threat of  
> expensive patent litigation).
>
> Patents reduce innovation, by creating "roadblocks" for others.  The  
> current patent system deter innovation, instead of spurring it.
>
> There are individuals out there, that will file patents on anything  
> they can think of, irregardless of who actually was the FIRST to do  
> it, and no matter WHERE the idea came from, which is the exact  
> opposite of what a patent is intended for.
>
> Patents stifle innovation, and false patent claims do nothing but  
> create expensive legal roadblocks (and litigation headaches) for the  
> end users of OpenSim software.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Shaun Erickson <ste at smxy.org> wrote:
> I run all my OpenSim code on OpenSUSE 11.3 in VMs under VMware ESXi  
> on multiple hosts. I certainly hope they aren't trying to patent  
> such an idea as virtualizing OpenSim, as I know I would not stop nor  
> would I pay royalties.
>
> There must be more to this than it seems on the face of it, that we  
> just haven't seen yet, is my guess.
>
> -ste
>
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mark Malewski <mark.malewski at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Now that's TRULY absurd...
>
> They're claiming to be the FIRST to use virtualization to host  
> OpenSim?
>
> That's absurd.  Every single instance of OpenSim that I have running  
> is hosted in either VMWare, VirtualBox, or Hyper-V.  (Depending on  
> the type of server, and whether it's Linux or Windows based).
>
> Nothing but hogwash... and false/absurd patent claims.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <manupool at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Sorry, that was the wrong link. Here ist the correct one:
>
> http://reactiongrid.blogspot.com/2011/02/reactiongrid-inc-files-for-us-patent.html
>
> Regards, Marcus
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Michael Cerquoni <nebadon2025 at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> > This article seems to make no mention of a Patent filing.  The  
> word Patent
> > is not mentioned even once.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Marcus Alexander Link <manupool at gmail.com 
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> just saw this posting. Thx to Pathfinder.
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000004150
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Marcus
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