Chat log from the meeting on 2026-05-26

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[11:01 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, everyone.
[11:02 AM] Ubit Umarov: i see you charid just at your left
[11:02 AM] Ubit Umarov: chair
[11:02 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Cuga.
[11:02 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Hola
[11:03 AM] woodenbarstool1: This is a Andrew's private Chair
[11:03 AM] Ubit Umarov: woodenbarstool1 whispers: This is a Andrew's private Chair
[11:04 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: There is nothing there that I can select.
[11:04 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: I can stand for now.
[11:04 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Anything else that is missing?
[11:04 AM] Jagga.Meridith @hg.zetaworlds.com: search
[11:04 AM] Ubit Umarov: pfff Vincent.Sylvester vodoo did snik in
[11:05 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Ah. Finally. The chair has appeared.
[11:06 AM] Ubit Umarov: did clear cache and see you sitting andrew
[11:06 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Just one of those strange situations.
[11:06 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Getting a lot of reports of missing stuff even assets going missing lately, quite strange
[11:06 AM] Ubit Umarov: you found the chair while i did relog?
[11:08 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Yes. The chair finally popped in. It wasn't invisible. I did an area selection and there was no sign of it.
[11:08 AM] Ubit Umarov: err i did relog right?
[11:08 AM] Ubit Umarov: ok
[11:08 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Ubit, I think you did. Just after my chair appeared I wasn't seeing you.
[11:08 AM] Ubit Umarov: mb you had a bit of packet loss
[11:09 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I'll put the goat away for another day
[11:09 AM] Ubit Umarov: ohh dino already had a eye on it
[11:09 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe
[11:11 AM] Ubit Umarov: wel about las week code changes..
[11:12 AM] Ubit Umarov: great news.. no new bugs where added !!
[11:12 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Great news indeed. :)
[11:13 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I found some more in search though, but in this heatwave working on that gets difficult
[11:14 AM] Ubit Umarov: you call this heat? wait for july
[11:15 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I dread to think what's yet to come, I'm already scrambled eggs in the head
[11:20 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: New fs beta came out the other day
[11:21 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: What version number are they up to now?
[11:22 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: 7.2.4..80712
[11:23 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: There is supposedly some bug that causes certain world map tiles to appear copied into the wrong place and in certain case it just hard crashes to desktop failing to decode image data that accidentally becomes xml data
[11:23 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Illusive things that are hard to debug
[11:23 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: That seems to be the theme this year in general
[11:24 AM] Ubit Umarov: 712? im on 703 pfff
[11:25 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: I'm on 7.1.11
[11:26 AM] Ubit Umarov: ohh llviewer look changed
[11:27 AM] Ubit Umarov: the login page i mean
[11:27 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: 7.2.3 here
[11:28 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: What else has been going on?
[11:28 AM] Ubit Umarov: and did install with fs running... that used to fail if i remember
[11:37 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: For a change the wiki is responding within the hour
[11:40 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me chuckles
[11:40 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: :)
[11:41 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hey, Lyr. Didn't see you come in.
[11:41 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: sorry, distracted by class, but funny perspectives
[11:41 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Hello Andrew! Sorry, multi tasking these days *grins*
[11:41 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: np
[11:41 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: I often do that myself.
[11:42 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I heard there have been a lot of UFO sightings in Mexico City
[11:42 AM] Ubit Umarov: got a request about adding RezRestoreToWorld
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: fs still supports that, but ll did remove from viewers
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: and we can-t really support it
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: bc the stored information says nothing about the origin scen and parcel
[11:44 AM] Ubit Umarov: you may try to rez it back on a diferent region if nto grid
[11:44 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: The SL implementation fails unless you are in the same region when taken
[11:44 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: But how they keep track of that, I don;t know
[11:44 AM] Ubit Umarov: ofc if you did wear it, the stored position is lear 0,0,0
[11:45 AM] Ubit Umarov: yeah even so they removed it from viewers
[11:45 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Would require some pseudo delete, which is already a mess
[11:45 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: For content creators it is a very useful features
[11:46 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: The inventory item somehow remembers where it was before
[11:46 AM] Ubit Umarov: yeah but will fail except of a very fews cases
[11:46 AM] Ubit Umarov: like using it jsut after take
[11:46 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: SL implementation always works or just doesn;t rez. But they must check for a number of edge cases
[11:47 AM] Ubit Umarov: and we never did add extra information to inventory, region and parcel
[11:47 AM] Ubit Umarov: bc it does not belong there
[11:47 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Yeah, to work something would need to be added just for that
[11:47 AM] Ubit Umarov: so,.. not adding it
[11:49 AM] Ubit Umarov: think i may used it once aroung 2008 in sl
[11:49 AM] Ubit Umarov: but from lost and found
[11:50 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: The alternative is just copy the location before deleting an item, re-rez, then paste the old location back
[11:50 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Not a big deal
[11:50 AM] Ubit Umarov: a friend did a mess wijt object bonus and i got a ton of things on lost and found :)
[11:51 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: So object table would need "last location" field or something when taking to inventory
[11:51 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: or when sent to Lost & Found
[11:51 AM] Ubit Umarov: in same cases, absolute position is still ok
[11:52 AM] Ubit Umarov: unless you did wear it, meanwhile
[11:52 AM] Ubit Umarov: even saving region and parcel, it may be confusing if you change the land
[11:53 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Oh right, would also have to remember to region
[11:53 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: the* region
[11:53 AM] Ubit Umarov: well ll removed if from viewers but left it on servers
[11:54 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: People will be pissed if they remove that
[11:54 AM] Ubit Umarov: it is flaged ezRestoreToWorld Low 425 NotTrusted Unencoded UDPDeprecated
[11:55 AM] Ubit Umarov: hmm uuencoded??
[11:56 AM] Ubit Umarov: err nm
[11:56 AM] Ubit Umarov: glasses with bad bateries :)
[11:59 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I need to head out.. but hoping to hear a good back-story about those hats
[12:00 PM] Ubit Umarov: yeah it is also time.. bety andrew is about to ask abotu last issues
[12:00 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Thank you
[12:00 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Have a great week!
[12:01 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me grins
[12:01 PM] Ubit Umarov: have fun
[12:01 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Have fun!
[12:01 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Have a great week =)
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