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[11:00 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, everyone.
[11:00 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Andrew
[11:00 AM] Ubit Umarov: hi
[11:00 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: It was a few days after last meeting that I was reminded of the clocks changing. I forgot to mention that last week
[11:01 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Welcome, Cueball. I don't recall seeing you here before.
[11:01 AM] Ubit Umarov: i i also wanted to tell and forgot
[11:01 AM] Cueball White: It's the first time in a very long time haha
[11:02 AM] Cueball White: I've been meaning to come but always forget LoL
[11:02 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, np.
[11:03 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: I had originally planned to get here at the start of the previous hour in case anyone showed up then for the meeting.
[11:03 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Jamie.
[11:03 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Got tied up with some work stuff so I wasn't able to log in then.
[11:04 AM] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: hey everybody
[11:04 AM] Ubit Umarov: oh no.. lazy opensim devs.. no code changes last week!
[11:04 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Busy reviewing code submissions ;)
[11:04 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Yes, I noticed that too. :)
[11:04 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: /me shakes head in disbelief
[11:05 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: That never happens, does it? ;)
[11:05 AM] Ubit Umarov: well why change perfect code?
[11:05 AM] Ubit Umarov: coff coff coff
[11:05 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: /me laughs
[11:05 AM] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: :-)
[11:05 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: you can always make some AI improve it
[11:06 AM] Ubit Umarov: lets us first see if AI can grow some hair on yr av head
[11:06 AM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:06 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-)
[11:06 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Grows hair on arms instead more likely
[11:06 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Cuga
[11:07 AM] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: no you let it write the rough then you improve that
[11:07 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: a few sliders and that is done. Not AI required. 2004ish tech
[11:07 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Good morning :)
[11:07 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: hair looks the same age tbh
[11:07 AM] Ubit Umarov: hmm dan told me that some virus things gave false positives on ubode.dll and bullet
[11:07 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: lol
[11:07 AM] Ubit Umarov: one antivirus on a list of 60
[11:07 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Good evening
[11:08 AM] Ubit Umarov: seems that same antivirus made in india, reports same 'virus'on a lot of programs
[11:08 AM] Jamie.Jordan @grid.kitely.com:8002: I use it everyday can't trust it as far as you can throw it
[11:09 AM] Ubit Umarov: it does come to mind how india is also a big place for internet scammers
[11:09 AM] Ubit Umarov: seems scamming is a big industry there
[11:09 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Maybe gets paid each time it flags something... like Sophos
[11:09 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: make India a LAN with no connection to the outside
[11:10 AM] Ubit Umarov: so ón google' several do question that antivirus..
[11:10 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: mcafee 3.0 huh
[11:11 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Wouldn't be the first time an antivirus program gave out a false positive and it won't be the last.
[11:11 AM] Ubit Umarov: but seems that windows defender of a short time also did report a diferent issue on the current osgrid zip
[11:11 AM] Ubit Umarov: .. for a short..
[11:11 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I wonder which platform of DLLs it flagged
[11:11 AM] Ubit Umarov: it where the ones for windows
[11:11 AM] Cueball White: I really don't miss having to have anti virus software chugging away
[11:12 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I have never had anitvirus installed ever
[11:12 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: on macOS
[11:12 AM] Ubit Umarov: defender fornd wormthing on some other file, but only of a a few days
[11:12 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: only time I had one infection was with a primitve floppy virs
[11:12 AM] Cueball White: I've been on Linux since about 1998
[11:12 AM] Ubit Umarov: guess a false positive they did fix
[11:13 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: None here either. They are regarded as poison by the Mac community
[11:13 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: indeed Cuga
[11:13 AM] Ubit Umarov: so you have no idea what virus you have since 1998 :p
[11:13 AM] Cueball White: Haha yeah
[11:13 AM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:15 AM] Ubit Umarov: btw the report was https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/cefedec795a8091ca8da44196c1a0c703c2974a18324769e139766ab39300e9d/relations
[11:16 AM] Ubit Umarov: i had to scan ubode.dll there and the antivirus reporting was one called MaxSecure
[11:17 AM] Ubit Umarov: some coments abotu that at
[11:17 AM] Ubit Umarov: https://www.reddit.com/r/antivirus/comments/rz7gzn/maxsecure_the_antivirus_i_dont_recommend/
[11:19 AM] Ubit Umarov: things about india ( or pakistan) scammers
[11:19 AM] Ubit Umarov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58JqGuclqng
[11:20 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: dlls might contain something that looks like self-unpacking code, in reality just a matrice for some physics boundary box
[11:21 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Thats not the original video, was originally from the guy who made the Glitterbomb
[11:21 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Not sure virustotal even has the capacity to really find the nasty things these days anyways
[11:21 AM] Ubit Umarov: oh tons of similar vidoes
[11:21 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: yea
[11:22 AM] Ubit Umarov: seems virus total stores scans made by othe things
[11:22 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Someone should make an Indian avatar
[11:22 AM] Cueball White: LoL
[11:23 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Might even have one among us. There are good people everywhere
[11:23 AM] Ubit Umarov: well india is a big country with tons of good thigns
[11:23 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yeah
[11:24 AM] Ubit Umarov: specailly on those few little towns that used to be portuguese :)
[11:25 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: So there's excitement in the Mac community about new LL viewer running native Apple GPU code. They released the code and Firestorm is planning to add in future release
[11:26 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I had a text chat with a FS dev yesterday
[11:26 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: how did they release to code?
[11:26 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: separate repo?
[11:26 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I don;t know, but FS dev says they have it and will be added in future release
[11:26 AM] Ubit Umarov: or a port of the mobile viewer to mac ?
[11:26 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: not the upcoming one which is almost ready
[11:27 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Good question
[11:27 AM] Cueball White: Mobile viewer? One exists?
[11:27 AM] Ubit Umarov: that is Unity... so suports a lot of systems
[11:27 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I tried the LL viewer, its the same regular LL UI not the horrible iPad one
[11:27 AM] Ubit Umarov: yeah SL only
[11:27 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: not sure there is any need for much separate code - maybe
[11:27 AM] Cueball White: Ahh don't care about that haha
[11:27 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: maybe
[11:28 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it give margial performance increase, because the rendering is not running any faster than before
[11:28 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: can'r assume S only, I'm trying to get more info on that
[11:28 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: SL*
[11:28 AM] Ubit Umarov: normal viewer is deep glued to opengl
[11:28 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Yeah I don;t know how they did it
[11:29 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: univerasl binary so you build the same code for two arch
[11:29 AM] Ubit Umarov: while engines like unity have a api layer on top of that
[11:29 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Replacing something like that is not that hard in itself, getting working well is a different story
[11:29 AM] Ubit Umarov: that laywer does convert to d12 or opengl or metal etc
[11:30 AM] Ubit Umarov: oh it is hard LOL
[11:30 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Its all client side stuff so no reason it wouldn't work for OS viewer. Whether it;s licensed for that is another story
[11:30 AM] Ubit Umarov: even basics like XYZ orientations are diferent
[11:30 AM] Ubit Umarov: soem are not even LHS
[11:31 AM] Ubit Umarov: well details
[11:31 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it might of course be that LL give FS the code for a SL viewer in the same way they give them free access to KDU, Havok and other libraries
[11:32 AM] Ubit Umarov: teh mobile one as made by adam frisby
[11:32 AM] Ubit Umarov: they where on last oscc
[11:33 AM] Ubit Umarov: wel one that chate with Mal
[11:33 AM] Ubit Umarov: ..on that..
[11:33 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Should just drop the facade and go full casino mode, cause let's be honest that's why they want a mobile viewer, to cash in on that gambling trend
[11:33 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: lol casino mode
[11:34 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I been watching the sl wiki changes and they been adding people to that list, unsurprisingly
[11:34 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Money talks
[11:34 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: and your L$ will be gone
[11:34 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: :)
[11:36 AM] Ubit Umarov: fun how philp tells things like FS is sl UI
[11:37 AM] Ubit Umarov: bet ll viewer team feels great reading that
[11:37 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: meaning?
[11:37 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Not the sharpest tool in the box that one
[11:37 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Taking everything out of LL with a bucket of salt these days
[11:38 AM] Ubit Umarov: FS is great.. but it is like 99%(?) ll code
[11:38 AM] Ubit Umarov: ok mybe 98% only
[11:38 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: pretty much
[11:39 AM] Ubit Umarov: btw how is dayturn going ?
[11:39 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: XUI xml is different
[11:39 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: limping along :-)
[11:39 AM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:39 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I added some code last week
[11:40 AM] Ubit Umarov: now that you have win running again.. >(
[11:40 AM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:40 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yeah, that is a true wun!
[11:40 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: win*
[11:41 AM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:41 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: the chances last week did compile also for windows
[11:41 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: so yea
[11:41 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Until MS breaks something again
[11:42 AM] Ubit Umarov: well currently FS seems the most complete and reliable viewer for opensim and sl
[11:42 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: win 10 us EOL, so no changes to be expected here
[11:42 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: unless they still upgrade the compiler
[11:42 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: is
[11:42 AM] Ubit Umarov: even so, strange to read a big LL guy or the LL guy telling that in front of his viewer dev team
[11:43 AM] Ubit Umarov: ( on the last video of the TPV meeting i seen )
[11:43 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Hopefully not, I didn't give them 30 bucks to also break the last working windows version out there
[11:43 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I tried to get the extended update, but it just barfed out on MS login so fuck all of that
[11:44 AM] Ubit Umarov: pay 30 bucks for 1 year of not so fresh bugs?
[11:44 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I just ran a powershell script which worked, course they'd fuck up their own enrollment process
[11:44 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: What's the alternative? Go to Win11 and deal with ten times the bugs, nah
[11:44 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: must be what I have experienced
[11:44 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: most likely done on purpose
[11:45 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: to dissuade users from trying and upgrade to 111
[11:45 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: 11
[11:45 AM] Ubit Umarov: well some ppl are very happy running win XP inc US military :)
[11:45 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: 111 - when will that be?
[11:45 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: :)
[11:46 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I had no issue using 7 quite frankly, was actually very usable, 10 less so
[11:46 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Windows 2024 will come out in 2026 (jk)
[11:46 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: MS now also messing with visual studio
[11:46 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: is it?
[11:46 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: They just can't leave shit alone, gotta break it all
[11:46 AM] Ubit Umarov: win 10 was supposed to be the last win...
[11:47 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it will be for me
[11:47 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: They never officially said that, but was implied
[11:47 AM] Ubit Umarov: guess it actually was.. win11 is turning into a cloud client
[11:48 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Win11 is something I wouldn't even flush down the toilet for fear it might clog it or break a pipe
[11:48 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I deleted my last Windows install last week
[11:48 AM] Ubit Umarov: wel im on 11 :)
[11:48 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: F
[11:48 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: all your opensim code will be sucked over to MS and used to train some AI
[11:49 AM] Ubit Umarov: stil with local accout.. no secure boot, no blitlock.. wel i hope it is still off
[11:49 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: So that's why copilot sucks, it read all the os code xD
[11:49 AM] Ubit Umarov: well it is on github so already suck by their AI
[11:49 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: I don't have anything that could run Win11. I have 10 on one laptop as I do occasionally need Windows for some very niche things. I also have XP and 10 in separate virtualbox instances.
[11:50 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: when AI generated commits comes with the commit message "cosmetics" whe know which code it was trained on
[11:51 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: At least that code would be better than what it currently spits out
[11:51 AM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[11:51 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: /me grins at Gavin
[11:52 AM] Ubit Umarov: Lyr :)
[11:52 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Hello *grins*
[11:52 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: I should throw that skiasharp stuff at it see if it can make more sense of it, chatgpt failed at it pretty spectacularly
[11:52 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Lyr. Didn't know if we were going to see you today.
[11:52 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: sorry, juggling during the last week of classes
[11:52 AM] Ubit Umarov: arrived at the right moment... the End
[11:52 AM] Ubit Umarov: hihiih
[11:52 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me chuckles
[11:53 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: IIRC, one more week to go before clocks change across the pond.
[11:53 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Well, our OpenSimulator Community Conference schedule is tentatively set, and the Speaker letters are going out
[11:53 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Our clocks already changed here. Didn't realize they have a delay
[11:53 AM] Ubit Umarov: nice
[11:53 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: thought they were a week ago or so
[11:54 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: All clocks have changed Andrew
[11:54 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Last week was an hour early for EU
[11:54 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Now back to normal
[11:54 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: yes, and Sunday was our fall back
[11:54 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: All? The schedule changed. There used to be a two week delay between NA and EU changing clocks.
[11:54 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: they keep moving the date *smiles*
[11:54 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: They as in here
[11:54 AM] Ubit Umarov: actual it is still one houe early
[11:54 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: tarrifs
[11:54 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: as sometimes it is October and sometimes, first Sunday in November
[11:54 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Not every year, it's different as it's based on different methods
[11:54 AM] Ubit Umarov: now just also fo r usa :)
[11:55 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: yes, I worked through the extra hour ...
[11:55 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: I read that the US has made first step in stopping the nonsense. A bill has to pass the House before clock changing in the US will stop.
[11:55 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: aha - MAGA time
[11:55 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Heaven forbid the world could agree on a single date for that
[11:55 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: yes, the Senate passed a bill, I do believe
[11:55 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: They have been trying to make bills to stop it for 20 years
[11:55 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: hehe
[11:56 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: In any event, for anyone who sent in a proposal, we extended the call for proposals, so I will be a day later with the acceptance letters. A few went out last night and more today and tomorrow.
[11:56 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Lyr, Right. I haven't seen any mention of when it might go before the House. I think the US government is mostly shutdown right now so it will be a while yet before the bill may get voted on.
[11:56 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Many thanks! Registration is open for those who register. If not, all are welcome even without registration
[11:57 AM] Cueball White: Must be off. Take care all.
[11:57 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: It is baffling, Andrew
[11:57 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Thanks Lyr looking forward to it
[11:57 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: bye Cueball
[11:57 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: have a great week
[11:57 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, Cueball. Thanks for dropping by.
[11:57 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Thanks, Cuga
[11:57 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: What I don't understand is "I want permanent Daylight savings time"
[11:58 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Thanks for the update on the OSCC. Only about one month away now.
[11:58 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: We can't have that here as it will be dark till 10.30 mid winter
[11:58 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: we would have to be on winter time always
[11:58 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: If DST means the clock stay ahead an hour, that's what I want. I like it to stay light late(r) in the day.
[11:58 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Yes, it is December 6-7, OSCC 2025
[11:58 AM] Ubit Umarov: think winter time is closer to sun time
[11:59 AM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Sunlight is too bright anyways, eternal darkness is bliss
[11:59 AM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: it is Ubit
[11:59 AM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: marking calendar
[11:59 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me chuckles at Tampa
[11:59 AM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: I'm squinting as we speak
[11:59 AM] Andrew Hellershanks: Good point. I don't know if I have put it on my wall calendar yet.
[12:00 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: yes, we open with the Core Dev session
[12:00 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: If people dont like real time, then adjust your own sleep/wpork schedule
[12:00 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: I probably won't be at the VIP session. I don't know what has happened but some time back it seems that the FS viewer broke my ability to use inworld voice.
[12:00 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: well, you are always welcome
[12:01 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: At least I think it is the viewer since I have several other programs that have no issue with using a mic.
[12:01 PM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Update to the latest beta, there was an issue with voice in a few versions
[12:01 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: We will have a viewer panel...currently assembling it if anyone is interested. *smiles*
[12:01 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: A viewer panel has been a staple at OSCC in the past. IIRC, there wasn't one last year.
[12:02 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: For those who saw the Hypergrid Survey, the results will be shared Saturday morning
[12:02 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: Vincent, I'll check it out.
[12:02 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Hope you can get FS devs
[12:02 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: not sure there is much more to be said /sarc
[12:02 PM] Ubit Umarov: well lets see if Vivox is still up next month :)
[12:02 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: any new movement on Vivox?
[12:03 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: would love that, cuga.
[12:03 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: I wonder if there will be any talk about voice alternatives for OS.
[12:03 PM] Ubit Umarov: seems robert thing for linux is stil having issues
[12:03 PM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: yay poorly researched "statistics" are always a great watch...
[12:03 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: It is based on everyone's availlability as that is before the holidays
[12:03 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: let everyone know to respond, Vincent *smiles*
[12:03 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I need to get with robert to suss that out
[12:03 PM] Ubit Umarov: he is working on it
[12:04 PM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: pfff don't bother, I been barking up that tree for years to no avail
[12:04 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: we will use Discord for conference voice this year
[12:04 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: I usually don't hear about the Hypergrid survey until they are providing the results of the years survey.
[12:04 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: and will have a training session for it, although it is very straightforward
[12:04 PM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: When it comes to stats, gotta do it yourself if you want accuracy
[12:04 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I think he said he could reproduce some problems reported earier, so hopefully an update soon
[12:04 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: We capture it, send it in world over the music channel and to YouTube for the live stream
[12:05 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: We as in Marcus LLewellyn, James Atlloud, Petlove Petshop and others on the stream team
[12:05 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: at OSCC 2025
[12:05 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: /me grins
[12:05 PM] Ubit Umarov: :)
[12:05 PM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Cuga, if you still want to dig into that you can poke me on discord I'll take a look
[12:05 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: great!
[12:05 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: I was having same issue as AI Autin
[12:05 PM] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Been meaning to set up a test for it as well, but haven't had the motivation for that
[12:06 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Ai will be presenting on gLTF too
[12:06 PM] Cuga.Rajal @rajal.org:9000: Thanks Vincent I will if that comes up
[12:06 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: I'll wait until the speakers approve their times before sharing the schedule and James Atlloud will build it in the conference program
[12:06 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Many thanks!
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: for your hard work and for keeping our community vibrant. We are thankful for you
[12:07 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: Lyr, when do the speaker profiles go online?
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: with the schedule that James builds
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: they are added and the slots with their times and descriptions
[12:07 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: ok.
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: my letters help to confirm the data
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: before we publish it, you see...which is why I was up all night typing them...but like to double check
[12:07 PM] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I have to go. Have a good one all!
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: before sending them *grins*
[12:07 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: see you, Gavin
[12:08 PM] Ubit Umarov: cya gavin
[12:08 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, Gavin. See you next week.
[12:09 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: I'll check mine when it goes online. I think there might have been some small change to be made. I'll know when I see it this year.
[12:10 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Great!
[12:10 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: I appreciate it
[12:10 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: Thank you, Lyr, and to the whole OSCC team. Busy time of your for all of you getting ready for the event.
[12:10 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: s/your/year/
[12:10 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: the panels are still flexible as we focus first on the speaker sessions, etc.
[12:10 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: yes, it is
[12:10 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: only one training time this year, too
[12:11 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: Keeps us hopping *grins*
[12:11 PM] Lyr.Lobo @cc.opensimulator.org:8002: well have a lovely week and thank you
[12:11 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: :)
[12:11 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: Any other last minute comments/questions before we wrap up?
[12:12 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: ok. Just as well for me. Got some work stuff to deal with on a short deadline.
[12:12 PM] Andrew Hellershanks: Thank you all for coming. See you again next week.
