[Opensim-users] that ol' phantoms on megaregions issue

[Justin Clark-Casey]

Have you tried switching to a varregion?  I want to say that you can do this with an existing megaregion config and it 
will work (don't quote me).  I do suggest doing this if at all possible.

I know there are load oar parameters [1] specifically for loading 256x256 regions into a larger varregion.  I don't know 
how well they would work for megaregions.

If you're doing something with Kitely then you would have to ask them directly as I hear they have proprietary 
megaregion code.

[1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Load_Oar

On 16/02/15 23:06, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
> Thanks for the help, Chris.
>
> I tried rezzing & editing on the regions with ephemeral objects, and rezzed objects behave as expected, that is, as normal.
>
> I have tried saving & reloading the megaregion oar in question, with no success. What I mean is, the whole megaregion
> saved/loaded as a single oar, but it didn't fix the problem. Also tried it with 'fix-phantom' & backup both before and
> after, and even rebooted the server which didn't do the trick either.
>
> This would suggest (as you noted) that 256^2 regions cannot be loaded individually into a megaregion and still function,
> although I think in some of my reading about this issue I had seen where people were doing just that and having it work
> for them (I could be mistaken about this).
>
> Can individual regions be saved from a megaregion as individual oar files? Guess I need to test that, because at this
> point the only solution I can think is to completely rebuild those three non-root-sims. :|
>
> ~!CJ
>
>
> On 2015-02-16 19:55, Chris wrote:
>> I'm unsure of how an OAR would react if it was saved from originally a
>> 256x256 region and then loaded to a megaregion but can you rez
>> anything from inventory and it be edit-able ? You could also try
>> saving an OAR of the mega region with the stuff on it, then reload
>> from that OAR, it may or may not help. Beyond that I am unsure :)
>>
>> On 2/16/2015 12:43 AM, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
>>> ...and to answer the second part of your question, after disabling megaregions, the ephemeral objects are once again
>>> corporeal -- that is, the data loads in the build window, and they are no longer phantom...
>>>
>>> On 2015-02-16 19:24, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
>>>> Actually yes, I did enable megaregions with everything in place BUT
>>>> after enabling, I then re-loaded each 256^2 region from individual oar
>>>> files, used 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' in the console, and then saved
>>>> the whole megaregion oar. At this point the objects on the
>>>> non-root-sim are phantom/ephemeral.
>>>>
>>>> I then loaded other misc. oar files into all four regions of the
>>>> megaregion, and then loaded the megaregion oar again just to make sure
>>>> the oar file worked. Everything 'looks' like it's there, but only the
>>>> objects on the root sim really are there.
>>>>
>>>> Since the phantom/ephemeral issue is persisting at this point, I then
>>>> do another 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup', waited a few minutes then
>>>> rebooted the server. No change, problem persists.
>>>>
>>>> ~!CJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-02-16 18:55, Chris wrote:
>>>>> Did you enable megaregions while you had content on it? As far as I
>>>>> know this has a tendency to break your content if you enable it with
>>>>> stuff rezzed out on your regions. What happens if you disable
>>>>> megaregions?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/15/2015 11:39 PM, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
>>>>>> Been having a problem with objects not on my root sim pretty much no longer existing. Sometimes they look like
>>>>>> they're there, but when selected there is no data in the build window, and the avatar can pass right through them
>>>>>> like they're phantom. When loading the oar to Kitely, the objects don't even appear to be there, they're just gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should start by saying that I've been reading through the Kitely forum, reading through the OS wiki page for
>>>>>> megaregions, followed references to countless blog entries & other forums, and they're all saying the same thing
>>>>>> -- use 'fix-phantoms', and then typing 'backup'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can save & load megaregions locally & the non-root-sim objects will load up (visually) but in substance there is
>>>>>> nothing there. But again, when I load one of these 'working' megaregions to Kitely, the objects don't even load
>>>>>> visually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I can find is telling me to use 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' and that should solve the problem. Unfortunately I
>>>>>> am not finding this to be the case. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using OS 0.8.0.3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~!CiderJack
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