[Opensim-users] that ol' phantoms on megaregions issue

opensim.users at katijackstudio.com opensim.users at katijackstudio.com
Mon Feb 16 23:06:15 UTC 2015


Thanks for the help, Chris.

I tried rezzing & editing on the regions with ephemeral objects, and 
rezzed objects behave as expected, that is, as normal.

I have tried saving & reloading the megaregion oar in question, with no 
success. What I mean is, the whole megaregion saved/loaded as a single 
oar, but it didn't fix the problem. Also tried it with 'fix-phantom' & 
backup both before and after, and even rebooted the server which didn't 
do the trick either.

This would suggest (as you noted) that 256^2 regions cannot be loaded 
individually into a megaregion and still function, although I think in 
some of my reading about this issue I had seen where people were doing 
just that and having it work for them (I could be mistaken about this).

Can individual regions be saved from a megaregion as individual oar 
files? Guess I need to test that, because at this point the only 
solution I can think is to completely rebuild those three non-root-sims. 
:|

~!CJ


On 2015-02-16 19:55, Chris wrote:
> I'm unsure of how an OAR would react if it was saved from originally a
> 256x256 region and then loaded to a megaregion but can you rez
> anything from inventory and it be edit-able ? You could also try
> saving an OAR of the mega region with the stuff on it, then reload
> from that OAR, it may or may not help. Beyond that I am unsure :)
> 
> On 2/16/2015 12:43 AM, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
>> ...and to answer the second part of your question, after disabling 
>> megaregions, the ephemeral objects are once again corporeal -- that 
>> is, the data loads in the build window, and they are no longer 
>> phantom...
>> 
>> On 2015-02-16 19:24, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
>>> Actually yes, I did enable megaregions with everything in place BUT
>>> after enabling, I then re-loaded each 256^2 region from individual 
>>> oar
>>> files, used 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' in the console, and then 
>>> saved
>>> the whole megaregion oar. At this point the objects on the
>>> non-root-sim are phantom/ephemeral.
>>> 
>>> I then loaded other misc. oar files into all four regions of the
>>> megaregion, and then loaded the megaregion oar again just to make 
>>> sure
>>> the oar file worked. Everything 'looks' like it's there, but only the
>>> objects on the root sim really are there.
>>> 
>>> Since the phantom/ephemeral issue is persisting at this point, I then
>>> do another 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup', waited a few minutes then
>>> rebooted the server. No change, problem persists.
>>> 
>>> ~!CJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2015-02-16 18:55, Chris wrote:
>>>> Did you enable megaregions while you had content on it? As far as I
>>>> know this has a tendency to break your content if you enable it with
>>>> stuff rezzed out on your regions. What happens if you disable
>>>> megaregions?
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/15/2015 11:39 PM, opensim.users at katijackstudio.com wrote:
>>>>> Been having a problem with objects not on my root sim pretty much 
>>>>> no longer existing. Sometimes they look like they're there, but 
>>>>> when selected there is no data in the build window, and the avatar 
>>>>> can pass right through them like they're phantom. When loading the 
>>>>> oar to Kitely, the objects don't even appear to be there, they're 
>>>>> just gone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I should start by saying that I've been reading through the Kitely 
>>>>> forum, reading through the OS wiki page for megaregions, followed 
>>>>> references to countless blog entries & other forums, and they're 
>>>>> all saying the same thing -- use 'fix-phantoms', and then typing 
>>>>> 'backup'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can save & load megaregions locally & the non-root-sim objects 
>>>>> will load up (visually) but in substance there is nothing there. 
>>>>> But again, when I load one of these 'working' megaregions to 
>>>>> Kitely, the objects don't even load visually.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All I can find is telling me to use 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' and 
>>>>> that should solve the problem. Unfortunately I am not finding this 
>>>>> to be the case. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm using OS 0.8.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~!CiderJack
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