[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

[Melanie]

Hi,

on the packet level, there are three main software code bases:

OpenSim
Avination
Inworldz

All other grids will fall into one of these categories. This is
because Avination and Inworldz are the only grids doing independent
development at that level of coding. Others tweak or add to it but
only these entities write low level code.

Maybe that info helps.

- Melanie

On 20/11/2012 20:49, Snowcrash Short wrote:
> Yes, and no.
> 
> Because, in order to very if my code could successfully detect the presence
> of WinGridProx without false positives, I needed to verify how a certain
> combination of packets was formatted by different machines. Especially with
> different DNS configurations, testing that would require logging into a
> grid consisting of multiple computers with different domain names.
> 
> Something which is very hard to do on a small network but very easy to do
> by simply logging into and out of a couple of different regions in OSGrid.
> Setting up a test environment where I can test that is beyond the resources
> I have available, but they are readily available on OSGrid.
> 
> I am purposely vague about the method I have found, since I don't want
> prematurely to give people using WinGridProxy to spoof connections a heads
> up on how the detection works, although - of course - they might already
> know.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> what does OSGrid have to do with WinGridProxy? These are two
>> completely different things.
>>
>> - Melanie
>>
>> On 20/11/2012 16:47, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>> > I have some bad news.
>> >
>> > I believe I have found a way to determine if MyInventory is being proxied
>> > by WinGridProxy, but I cannot reliably test if my detection scheme has
>> > false positives.
>> >
>> > I would appear that the OSGrid admins has decided to block MyInventory,
>> at
>> > least that is the conclusion I have reached. I can log into OSGrid using
>> > e.g. Phoenix but when doing the same with with MyInventory I receive the
>> > message: "Logins are currently restricted. Please try again later". Login
>> > worked a few days ago, and works on every other grid I have used for
>> > testing.
>> >
>> > It is a shame really, I would like to have included detection of
>> > WinGridProxy, and I simply refuse to resort to hacking methods in order
>> to
>> > test this.
>> >
>> > So, I'm afraid I cannot comply with your wish to detect and prevent the
>> use
>> > of WinGridProxy.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Snowcrash
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Snowcrash Short
>> > <snowcrash.short at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> First of all, I'm not all that enthused about the BSD license, it does
>> >> grant some permissions I'm not completely at ease with.
>> >>
>> >> I am far from convinced that ordinary users would want to run and
>> operate
>> >> their own regions, I might be persuaded to think otherwise, but at the
>> >> moment, I have the impression that believing all users should run an
>> >> instance of Robust and HG, is like believing that all problems are nail
>> >> just because a hammer is the tool I have at hand.
>> >>
>> >> But, oth. I could see some reasons why a very very very user friendly
>> and
>> >> almost invisible personal user local region might be of some use in some
>> >> scenarios.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Diva Canto <diva at metaverseink.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 11/19/2012 1:42 PM, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Using Robust as a basis for storing a users personal inventory and
>> >>>> assets (legally licensed naturally) is asking too much of the average
>> user
>> >>>> in my personal opinion, it needs to be simpler.
>> >>>> [...]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hope that clarifies why I have opted to stay away from writing code
>> >>>> for Robust.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You seem to want to design a collection of user services that run on a
>> >>> person's computer, wrapped up in a nice UI. Robust + HG user services
>> gives
>> >>> you that, without the UI. You have technical choices that affect how
>> the
>> >>> community will perceive your work. If you prefer to
>> redesign/reimplement
>> >>> from scratch instead of using what's already been designed/implemented,
>> >>> that's your choice. If you prefer to use libomv, in order to force
>> grids to
>> >>> open their resources to you, instead of giving grid operators options,
>> >>> that's also your choice.
>> >>>
>> >>> Feedback doesn't seem to be registering.
>> >>> One final time, good luck!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Diva
>> >>>
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