[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

[Snowcrash Short]

Yes, and no.

Because, in order to very if my code could successfully detect the presence
of WinGridProx without false positives, I needed to verify how a certain
combination of packets was formatted by different machines. Especially with
different DNS configurations, testing that would require logging into a
grid consisting of multiple computers with different domain names.

Something which is very hard to do on a small network but very easy to do
by simply logging into and out of a couple of different regions in OSGrid.
Setting up a test environment where I can test that is beyond the resources
I have available, but they are readily available on OSGrid.

I am purposely vague about the method I have found, since I don't want
prematurely to give people using WinGridProxy to spoof connections a heads
up on how the detection works, although - of course - they might already
know.

Best regards

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> what does OSGrid have to do with WinGridProxy? These are two
> completely different things.
>
> - Melanie
>
> On 20/11/2012 16:47, Snowcrash Short wrote:
> > I have some bad news.
> >
> > I believe I have found a way to determine if MyInventory is being proxied
> > by WinGridProxy, but I cannot reliably test if my detection scheme has
> > false positives.
> >
> > I would appear that the OSGrid admins has decided to block MyInventory,
> at
> > least that is the conclusion I have reached. I can log into OSGrid using
> > e.g. Phoenix but when doing the same with with MyInventory I receive the
> > message: "Logins are currently restricted. Please try again later". Login
> > worked a few days ago, and works on every other grid I have used for
> > testing.
> >
> > It is a shame really, I would like to have included detection of
> > WinGridProxy, and I simply refuse to resort to hacking methods in order
> to
> > test this.
> >
> > So, I'm afraid I cannot comply with your wish to detect and prevent the
> use
> > of WinGridProxy.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Snowcrash
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Snowcrash Short
> > <snowcrash.short at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> First of all, I'm not all that enthused about the BSD license, it does
> >> grant some permissions I'm not completely at ease with.
> >>
> >> I am far from convinced that ordinary users would want to run and
> operate
> >> their own regions, I might be persuaded to think otherwise, but at the
> >> moment, I have the impression that believing all users should run an
> >> instance of Robust and HG, is like believing that all problems are nail
> >> just because a hammer is the tool I have at hand.
> >>
> >> But, oth. I could see some reasons why a very very very user friendly
> and
> >> almost invisible personal user local region might be of some use in some
> >> scenarios.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Diva Canto <diva at metaverseink.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/19/2012 1:42 PM, Snowcrash Short wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Using Robust as a basis for storing a users personal inventory and
> >>>> assets (legally licensed naturally) is asking too much of the average
> user
> >>>> in my personal opinion, it needs to be simpler.
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope that clarifies why I have opted to stay away from writing code
> >>>> for Robust.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You seem to want to design a collection of user services that run on a
> >>> person's computer, wrapped up in a nice UI. Robust + HG user services
> gives
> >>> you that, without the UI. You have technical choices that affect how
> the
> >>> community will perceive your work. If you prefer to
> redesign/reimplement
> >>> from scratch instead of using what's already been designed/implemented,
> >>> that's your choice. If you prefer to use libomv, in order to force
> grids to
> >>> open their resources to you, instead of giving grid operators options,
> >>> that's also your choice.
> >>>
> >>> Feedback doesn't seem to be registering.
> >>> One final time, good luck!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Diva
> >>>
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