[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

Dr Ramesh Ramloll r.ramloll at gmail.com
Mon Nov 19 23:30:40 UTC 2012


I am actually pleased to see this discussion too. I learned a LOT.  Man
that level of passion is sooo comforting.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Shaun Erickson <ste at smxy.org> wrote:

> Please don't. I find it to be a very educational discussion. If you don't
> want to read it further, exercise your finger on the delete key, please.
>
> -ste
>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Michael Mitchell <mmitchel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> WTF?
>
> ""You keep mentioning laws in your country, but that is irrelevant and immaterial.""
> -- melanie
>
> In all seriousness, this thread is the typical dead horse. With more than
> its share of
> arm chair lawyers. So how about we keep beating it, and see where it winds
> up?
>
> Can we put this thread on *MUTE* please?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 19/11/2012 22:51, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>> > Theft is a criminal act punishable by law, and illegal acquisition or
>> > distribution of immaterial property (typically IP) is theft, what you
>> are
>> > referring to is "breach of contract" and requires that a contract has
>> been
>> > entered into by both parties. If no contract has been made made - in my
>> > country it must be entered into explicitly - there cannot be a "breach
>> of
>> > contract".
>>
>> Theft of IP occurs when you obtain copies of IP in ways not licensed
>> by the creator. This is a criminal offense. Additionally, you incur
>> civil liability through breach of contract, which is what the TOS
>> are. In Avination, you cannot log in without accepting the TOS,
>> which means you have entered into this contract and are bound by it.
>>
>> Therefore, downloading content from Avination will open you up to
>> both criminal and civil penalties.
>>
>> You keep mentioning laws in your country, but that is irrelevant and
>> immaterial. Most infringers are not from your country. If most
>> infringers were from a single country, that country could be IP
>> blocked and we'd have no more problems. Sadly, infringers are all
>> over and that means that, due to statistical distribution, most
>> infringers are not covered by your country's laws.
>>
>> Let me state this here for the record: I do not believe that anyone
>> here is accusing you personally of infringing copyright. I certainly
>> do not accuse you of such a thing. We are concerned, as a community,
>> that your tool will remove a barrier to entry for copybotters. They
>> will no longer need to learn complex toolsets. That is the risk
>> we're seeing and that is why some of the posters on this thread have
>> started thinking aloud about blocking technologies.
>>
>> I have hinted at it before people started saying it outright - isn't
>> it better to have an accepted, community-supported tool than to have
>> a banned tool?
>>
>> - Melanie
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