[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

[Shaun Erickson]

Please don't. I find it to be a very educational discussion. If you don't want to read it further, exercise your finger on the delete key, please.

-ste

On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Michael Mitchell <mmitchel at gmail.com> wrote:

> WTF?
> 
> ""You keep mentioning laws in your country, but that is irrelevant and immaterial."" -- melanie
> 
> In all seriousness, this thread is the typical dead horse. With more than its share of
> arm chair lawyers. So how about we keep beating it, and see where it winds up?
> 
> Can we put this thread on *MUTE* please?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 19/11/2012 22:51, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>> > Theft is a criminal act punishable by law, and illegal acquisition or
>> > distribution of immaterial property (typically IP) is theft, what you are
>> > referring to is "breach of contract" and requires that a contract has been
>> > entered into by both parties. If no contract has been made made - in my
>> > country it must be entered into explicitly - there cannot be a "breach of
>> > contract".
>> 
>> Theft of IP occurs when you obtain copies of IP in ways not licensed
>> by the creator. This is a criminal offense. Additionally, you incur
>> civil liability through breach of contract, which is what the TOS
>> are. In Avination, you cannot log in without accepting the TOS,
>> which means you have entered into this contract and are bound by it.
>> 
>> Therefore, downloading content from Avination will open you up to
>> both criminal and civil penalties.
>> 
>> You keep mentioning laws in your country, but that is irrelevant and
>> immaterial. Most infringers are not from your country. If most
>> infringers were from a single country, that country could be IP
>> blocked and we'd have no more problems. Sadly, infringers are all
>> over and that means that, due to statistical distribution, most
>> infringers are not covered by your country's laws.
>> 
>> Let me state this here for the record: I do not believe that anyone
>> here is accusing you personally of infringing copyright. I certainly
>> do not accuse you of such a thing. We are concerned, as a community,
>> that your tool will remove a barrier to entry for copybotters. They
>> will no longer need to learn complex toolsets. That is the risk
>> we're seeing and that is why some of the posters on this thread have
>> started thinking aloud about blocking technologies.
>> 
>> I have hinted at it before people started saying it outright - isn't
>> it better to have an accepted, community-supported tool than to have
>> a banned tool?
>> 
>> - Melanie
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