[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

Thu Nov 15 12:14:27 UTC 2012

MyInventory implements a specialized asset store and an inventory store,
and one of the meta data properties available is license info, although
this ties into a feature that isn't comple yet, and probably won't be
complete when I release the first version.

Best regards
Snowcrash

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, John Sheridan <john at pseudospace.net>wrote:

> Personally, I've always hated the idea of treating data as property.  But
> my hippie ideals aside, mayhaps maybe this would be a good time to talk
> about maybe adding in a "license" field to OpenSim and other virtual world
> assets?  By this point in time, with IP rights and DRM being all the rage
> it seems make sense to try and come up with some sort of unified standard
> aside from the basic copy / mod / transfer permissioning system.
>
> /me slips on a rain coat and prepares to be pummeled by rotten vegetables.
>  :)
>
>  - Orion Pseudo / Fhang / (whatever other name on whatever grid)
>
>
>
> On 11/15/2012 05:26 AM, InuYasha Meiji wrote:
>
>> Not sure I like this idea.  One reason my Grid isn't connected to OSGrid
>> is my grid has a specific theme in mind.  I didn't want to combine the item
>> I created for my Ryukyu Kingdom early 17th century with all the random
>> items from OsGrid.  I am not open publicly yet, I am still building and
>> only have let a few trusted people in to see what I have so far.  This may
>> take years to finish.   I am trying to kep it in the 17th century without
>> people building flashy clubs and getting around on tanks and planes, if you
>> understand what I mean.
>>
>> In the meantime, the things I give out for free, to use, on my grid I
>> also sell in Secondlife to pay fees, and my yearly account. I like having
>> friends there as well as OsGrid and my own place. If I loose my SL income I
>> can't afford to be there at all.  I would most likely not stay on SL.  If
>> this program, you plan is used on my system, and people are just taking
>> copies of the free items I give out and freely take them to other grids.
>> including SL, they may even try to sell my items in SL and make a profit.
>>
>> To me this is almost as bad as the copybot problem SL had, but for
>> opensim creators. who wish to keep some control over where some of their
>> items end up.
>>
>> InuYasha
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/2012 4:44 AM, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I've been working on a client side tool for decentralizing user
>>> inventories, which I will release as an open source tool in two weeks, some
>>> of the features may be relevant to grid operators.
>>>
>>> The basic premise of the tool is that the inventory and the backing
>>> assets of the inventory items really should be controlled by the user. The
>>> tool is born out of a frustration of having visited a number of grids. Each
>>> visit to a new grid presents me with an empty inventory, and I can then
>>> spend time searching for suitable item, clothing, attachments and other
>>> accessories.
>>>
>>> For this purpose I have created a tool which will allow me to backup my
>>> inventory to a local cache and then upload the contents to another grid.
>>>
>>> If my tool becomes popular, both the upload and download mechanisms may
>>> have some impact on the grid-operators, hence this email to serve as a
>>> notice.
>>>
>>> The basic architecture is pretty simple, consisting of a number of
>>> import agents, which can import the users inventory and backing assets to a
>>> local database, and a number of upload agents which can upload inventory
>>> content to a specific account.
>>>
>>> Backup/Import
>>> There are two import agents, one which will import .iar files and one
>>> which works very much like I believe "Stored Inventory" works, which can
>>> backup the inventory of an avatars inventory. Avatar backup/Import is
>>> governed by a policy. Currently there are two policies, one complying with
>>> a very restrictive interpretation of the Linden Labs policy on backups, and
>>> a completely unrestricted policy, where anything that can be downloaded
>>> will be downloaded.
>>>
>>> When a new account is registered in MyInventory it checks if the account
>>> is for a Linden Lab grid and limits the choices of policies to policies
>>> suitable for LL's TOS, I cannot and do not know if other grids have similar
>>> policies, I can well imagine that Avination has a similar restrictions, and
>>> would like similar logic implemented to restrict the download. Any grid
>>> operator which would like to have backup governed by a more restrictive
>>> policy are invited to notify me and I will attempt to implement the policy
>>> prior to the first release of the source code. or supply patches at a later
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Upload/Export
>>> MyInventory supports two mechanisms for uploading inventory content,
>>> traditional upload using UDP/CAPS and direct access to the inventory and
>>> asset web-services.
>>> Due to limitations in the UDP/CAPS protocol each upload will create new
>>> assets, and as of my latest read of the Open Simulator code the asset store
>>> does not support "single instance assets", i.e. it does not use a checksum
>>> to verify if the asset already exists, for this reason MyInventory prefers
>>> to upload using direct access to asset and inventory web-services.
>>>
>>> I would propose that the grids which chooses to support MyInventory
>>> augment their "GridInfoService" entries with the url's for the asset and
>>> inventory web-services, e.g.
>>>
>>> [GridInfoService]
>>>     assets = http://assets.osgrid.org
>>>     inventory = http://inventory.osgrid.org
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Snowcrash
>>>
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