[Opensim-users] Hypergrid & USB Sticks Part 2

[Diva Canto]

I agree with Justin here. OpenSim networking is a complicated issue. 
These worlds don't do well when they are ported from one network to 
another -- at least not without some considerable expertise to fix all 
the networking configurations.

On 3/12/2012 3:02 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
> On 12/03/12 14:12, Owen Kelly wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am afraid I did not explain as much as I should have done (or as 
>> clearly). Please let me make one more attempt, and then we can let it 
>> lie :)
>>
>> 1. The children in the project are ten years old. The version of 
>> Imprudence we are using has all the menus (and currently the maps) 
>> stripped out.
>> 2. The children are using Open Sim on a USB stick precisely so that 
>> they can use it from anywhere: from school (maybe), from home 
>> (definitely), and possibly from other places including friends and 
>> relatives.
>> 3. Each world-on-a-stick is one-user only. They cannot ever directly 
>> visit any other child's world-on-a-stick.
>>
>> The system we envisage is strictly radial. At the centre is one 
>> social world, running on the university server at Arcada. Each spoke 
>> is a single world-on-a-stick that should ideally operate in two 
>> modes: a) as a strictly one-user personal pocket world, and b) as a 
>> means of connecting to the social world.
>>
>> The social world is a club-house, populated only by the class of 
>> children and their two teachers. Ideally children would be able to 
>> bring things from their pocket world into the social world and take 
>> things back to their social world. Thus children can make things and 
>> then share them. They can take snapshots of their own world and share 
>> them. But the cannot take anyone else back to their personal world.
>>
>> The reasons why we want to make it like this are quite complicated, 
>> and off-topic for this list, but I can post a link to a short paper 
>> if anyone is interested. (Short version: Pokemon is a single player 
>> experience. Pokemon Arena allowed you to move your Pokemon into a 
>> shared world and compete against your friends.  Private learning 
>> linked to social games.)
>>
>> I will try some experiments with Justin's ideas about landmarks. 
>> These raise the question of whether I actually need hypergridding at 
>> all. What I think I actually need is to be able to teleport between 
>> the two worlds. Can this be done without making the social world 
>> fully accessible?
>>
>> Is there a better approach to achieve what we want?
>
> You are trying to do something that I would say is currently very 
> complex.  There are also security issues (opening up ports to enable 
> hypergrid from outside your network) which running in a private vpn 
> may alleviate (a big topic in itself).  Children make such issues more 
> critical.
>
> Using hypergrid will also require good upload bandwidth from the 
> children's home computers.  I would say better than your typical ADSL 
> line but I'd be very happy to be contradicted on this.
>