[Opensim-users] NPC module?

[bodzette Coignet]

Hi Diva,

Thanks for chipping in to the conversation.
I'm willing to take on the job of hacking out a bot that can do the
following: Follow a set of  scripted/programmed instructions which
effectively calls a list of functions making the bot stand, walk, sit, turn,
talk, do an animation or sit on a specfied poseball etc


My problem which I keep repeating is that though I could code up more than
the stubs as currently exist in the code I don't know the details of how to
get the NPCModule working! i.e. I can see that the module is there and can
read the code but at runtime I can't get anything to happen and don't know
how to. Being able to test that what I'm doing works is chicken and egg
critical to getting going.

If I can get some pointers on that them I'm more than delighted to share my
efforts as opensource. Once I have gotten the ball rolling I suspect that
others will chip in their efforts and this module will take on a life of
it's own, but I just need to be able to get started and there's absolutely
NOTHING out there telling you how to do it.


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:01 PM, <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:

> I agree. Our current NPCs, however, are a bit challenging to program and
> control. This is one thing that could really use someone's love and
> attention, and I'd love to hear concrete proposals on how to make this
> better -- not just opinions but actual code proposals.
>
> bodzette Coignet wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip Gwyneth. Didn't I see you in an ancient greek themed
>> party in SL the other week?
>>
>> Anyways, what I'm looking for is not quite so ambitious. I can see that
>> the stubs for the code are there in the following folder of the source code:
>> \Region\OptionalModules\World\NPC
>>
>> It also looks like that particular code does the basics: i.e. walk the
>> bot, make it appear, make it disappear, make it talk etc and given that it
>> shows you which module to code against to make the avatar move it shouldn't
>> be too complicated to extend and I've already learned how to compile a
>> viewer through sweat and tears so I ought to be able to compile opensim with
>> some effort.
>>
>> My problem is more basic than that: how do you load the NPC module from
>> the console when opensim is actually running or else how do you make it
>> start firing the events that create the NPCs etc? I don't know where to
>> start with that and since documentation is so scarce I'm hoping one of the
>> devs can enlighten us how to get it going at least and then I can take it
>> from there.
>>
>> If I manage to get it more robust with a better feature set I will release
>> the code open source.
>>
>> Personally speaking I reckon that server side NPCs is the killer app that
>> will take opensim into the mainstream and we need this to be open sourced
>> because who knows what the future of opensim is going to be if SL keeps
>> losing paying merchants.
>>
>> Though it's not intially designed to be a gamin platform ONLY, gaming
>> certainly is within the remit as games are simulations and look at the RPG
>> usage. My take is that the SL and opensim RPGs are boring for precisely the
>> reason that they lack NPCs unlike the other commerical RPGs.
>>
>> There are thousands of kids out there on the net who all want to be game
>> programmers. We should enable them, with opensim as the opensource platform.
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Gwyneth Llewelyn <
>> gwyneth.llewelyn at gwynethllewelyn.net <mailto:
>> gwyneth.llewelyn at gwynethllewelyn.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    I'm working on something like that — general-purpose, AI-driven
>>    'bots to be used in SL and OpenSim — but it'll be at least three
>>    years until something works. Also, it won't be a "server module" but
>>    run completely independent from the OpenSim server.
>>
>>    Daden Limited UK has already a working, commercial solution, which
>>    has been tested for several SL/OpenSim projects. Perhaps you might
>>    be interested in contacting them!
>>
>>    - Gwyn
>>
>>    --
>>
>>    "I'm not building a game. I'm building a new country."
>>
>>      -- Philip "Linden" Rosedale, interview to Wired, 2004-05-08
>>
>>
>>
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