[Opensim-users] NPC module?

Thu Sep 16 21:38:09 UTC 2010

Several months ago I hacked at the pCampBot code and got it running, but
never was able to add any new functions.

I can send you what I did by direct email, it is a 5.1Mb rar file which is
too big for a mailing list!

Of course the real solution would be to add it as a branch to git, but that
is beyond my git skills right now.

The executable is called NPCBots, but I don't think it has any relation to
the one found at OpenSim\Region\OptionalModules\World\NPC

Karen

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM, bodzette Coignet <bodzettecoignet at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Diva,
>
> Thanks for chipping in to the conversation.
> I'm willing to take on the job of hacking out a bot that can do the
> following: Follow a set of  scripted/programmed instructions which
> effectively calls a list of functions making the bot stand, walk, sit, turn,
> talk, do an animation or sit on a specfied poseball etc
>
>
> My problem which I keep repeating is that though I could code up more than
> the stubs as currently exist in the code I don't know the details of how to
> get the NPCModule working! i.e. I can see that the module is there and can
> read the code but at runtime I can't get anything to happen and don't know
> how to. Being able to test that what I'm doing works is chicken and egg
> critical to getting going.
>
> If I can get some pointers on that them I'm more than delighted to share my
> efforts as opensource. Once I have gotten the ball rolling I suspect that
> others will chip in their efforts and this module will take on a life of
> it's own, but I just need to be able to get started and there's absolutely
> NOTHING out there telling you how to do it.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:01 PM, <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree. Our current NPCs, however, are a bit challenging to program and
>> control. This is one thing that could really use someone's love and
>> attention, and I'd love to hear concrete proposals on how to make this
>> better -- not just opinions but actual code proposals.
>>
>> bodzette Coignet wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip Gwyneth. Didn't I see you in an ancient greek themed
>>> party in SL the other week?
>>>
>>> Anyways, what I'm looking for is not quite so ambitious. I can see that
>>> the stubs for the code are there in the following folder of the source code:
>>> \Region\OptionalModules\World\NPC
>>>
>>> It also looks like that particular code does the basics: i.e. walk the
>>> bot, make it appear, make it disappear, make it talk etc and given that it
>>> shows you which module to code against to make the avatar move it shouldn't
>>> be too complicated to extend and I've already learned how to compile a
>>> viewer through sweat and tears so I ought to be able to compile opensim with
>>> some effort.
>>>
>>> My problem is more basic than that: how do you load the NPC module from
>>> the console when opensim is actually running or else how do you make it
>>> start firing the events that create the NPCs etc? I don't know where to
>>> start with that and since documentation is so scarce I'm hoping one of the
>>> devs can enlighten us how to get it going at least and then I can take it
>>> from there.
>>>
>>> If I manage to get it more robust with a better feature set I will
>>> release the code open source.
>>>
>>> Personally speaking I reckon that server side NPCs is the killer app that
>>> will take opensim into the mainstream and we need this to be open sourced
>>> because who knows what the future of opensim is going to be if SL keeps
>>> losing paying merchants.
>>>
>>> Though it's not intially designed to be a gamin platform ONLY, gaming
>>> certainly is within the remit as games are simulations and look at the RPG
>>> usage. My take is that the SL and opensim RPGs are boring for precisely the
>>> reason that they lack NPCs unlike the other commerical RPGs.
>>>
>>> There are thousands of kids out there on the net who all want to be game
>>> programmers. We should enable them, with opensim as the opensource platform.
>>>
>>> My 2c.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Gwyneth Llewelyn <
>>> gwyneth.llewelyn at gwynethllewelyn.net <mailto:
>>> gwyneth.llewelyn at gwynethllewelyn.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    I'm working on something like that — general-purpose, AI-driven
>>>    'bots to be used in SL and OpenSim — but it'll be at least three
>>>    years until something works. Also, it won't be a "server module" but
>>>    run completely independent from the OpenSim server.
>>>
>>>    Daden Limited UK has already a working, commercial solution, which
>>>    has been tested for several SL/OpenSim projects. Perhaps you might
>>>    be interested in contacting them!
>>>
>>>    - Gwyn
>>>
>>>    --
>>>
>>>    "I'm not building a game. I'm building a new country."
>>>
>>>      -- Philip "Linden" Rosedale, interview to Wired, 2004-05-08
>>>
>>>
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