[Opensim-users] monodev target in prebuild

[James Stallings II]

Rock On :)

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:48 AM, BlueWall <jamesh at bluewallgroup.com> wrote:

>  On 10/18/2010 05:20 AM, Stefan Andersson wrote:
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>  Excellent post. So good in fact, that I will hijack it.
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> If there are people that have tried (and failed) to use “prebuild /target
> monodev” to build and work with opensim, I would be interested to hear about
> it. Afaicr at some point in time (years ago, when we first introduced
> prebuild) we did get it to work.
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> /Stefan
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> *From:* opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de [
> mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de<opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de>]
> *On Behalf Of *dz
> *Sent:* den 14 oktober 2010 19:59
> *To:* opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] Why not a real OS
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> Folks,
>
> Not to add to the religious fervor....    but there's a couple things that
> are just NOT right about letting the mis-information slide.
>
> It's very popular for proponents of each side to wave magic metrics and
> declare victory in a race that could have just begun.     People don't come
> to this list to ask your opinion about Linux vs.Windows  IN GENERAL, they
> want to know what easiest with OpenSim.
>
> Its extremely disappointing to me to see that discussion drown out by the
> "know-it-alls" spewing their answers.
>
> OpenSim uses .NET as a platform,  as such, If you intend to RUN OpenSim,
> you can do it either as a native .NET application under windows, or on
> non-windows OS using the open-source MONO environment.
>
> Among the advantages of using Windows servers:
>     Historically, it has provided better operating performance for regions.
>     Most of the developers seem to be prefer the Microsoft toolchain.
>     There are no threats of c## "subterfuge" by MS ( the risk of these
> seems very small)
>
> Among the advantages of Mono OS independence:
>     Wider range of server platforms ( via  OS and hardware independence )
>     Like all smaller free software efforts, the best way to support it is
> to USE it and make it better
>
> If you select MONO based server platforms, it will pay for you to do your
> homework on your selection.  Contrary to prior posts, many of the popular
> Linux releases  (UBUNTU in particular) are notorious for NOT supporting the
> latest release of MONO.   That is not to say that you cannot build the
> latest version of MONO, but the "regular" repositories of supported software
> won't have it.   All religious preferences aside,  If you want to pick a
> linux distro with the latest and greatest MONO has to provide  I would
> recommend you go to the Novell  SuSe distribution.
>
> There are always arguments on both sides of the questions that touch the
> religion wars off.  For me, in this project, the most telling sign that
> Windows is the "preference" of the core developers  is that there is still
> little or no support for the MONOdevelope IDE.  Make and build on Linux from
> source still depends on the old-school command line tools.  Lots of people
> are comfortable enough with their Linux skills to cope with that
> requirement..
>
> Personally,  I'm one of the "irrational" believers that we vote loudest
> with our actions, so I pay to host linux machines for our internal OpenSim
> development machines, and generally make it known I prefer NOT to pay
> Microsoft whenever that option presents itself.   Your Satisfaction is not
> guaranteed by adopting that plan  :)
>
> D.
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> Prebuild was getting a little dated for monodevelop and our build system
> didn't produce proper solution files for monodevelop. Therfore monodevelop
> got a bad rap as being a hack, half implemented, etc. . So, I reworked our
> build system a little bit, adding some patches upstream to Prebuild.exe to
> provide proper solutions to our build system to support both monodevelop and
> xbuild.
>
> Now monodevelop may be used as a fully working IDE for OpenSim, debugger
> included. Also, xbuild for the command line works. And, Native git support
> is slated for Monodevelop 2.6. I have never used the free VS, but this might
> be a viable alternative for Windows users as well.
>
> Here are some notes about the updates and setting your addon-module
> prebuild.xml files to work with the new system. These is also a small python
> script to help with the migration. The link is here:
> http://bluewallvirtual.com/node/9 . (Teravus got the search working on
> opensimulator.org \o/ , I will try to update the site there with this
> information when time allows.
>
> It is good that we are striving for platform neutrality. This allows a
> person to use whatever tools are suited best for their abilities and taste.
>
> Thanks!
> BlueWall
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