[Opensim-users] monodev target in prebuild

[BlueWall]

On 10/18/2010 05:20 AM, Stefan Andersson wrote:
>
> Excellent post. So good in fact, that I will hijack it.
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> If there are people that have tried (and failed) to use "prebuild
> /target monodev" to build and work with opensim, I would be interested
> to hear about it. Afaicr at some point in time (years ago, when we
> first introduced prebuild) we did get it to work.
>
>  
>
> /Stefan
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> *From:* opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] *On Behalf Of *dz
> *Sent:* den 14 oktober 2010 19:59
> *To:* opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] Why not a real OS
>
>  
>
> Folks,
>
> Not to add to the religious fervor....    but there's a couple things
> that are just NOT right about letting the mis-information slide.
>
> It's very popular for proponents of each side to wave magic metrics
> and declare victory in a race that could have just begun.     People
> don't come to this list to ask your opinion about Linux vs.Windows  IN
> GENERAL, they want to know what easiest with OpenSim.
>
> Its extremely disappointing to me to see that discussion drown out by
> the "know-it-alls" spewing their answers.
>
> OpenSim uses .NET as a platform,  as such, If you intend to RUN
> OpenSim, you can do it either as a native .NET application under
> windows, or on non-windows OS using the open-source MONO environment.  
>
> Among the advantages of using Windows servers:
>     Historically, it has provided better operating performance for
> regions.
>     Most of the developers seem to be prefer the Microsoft toolchain.
>     There are no threats of c## "subterfuge" by MS ( the risk of these
> seems very small)
>
> Among the advantages of Mono OS independence:
>     Wider range of server platforms ( via  OS and hardware independence )
>     Like all smaller free software efforts, the best way to support it
> is to USE it and make it better
>
> If you select MONO based server platforms, it will pay for you to do
> your homework on your selection.  Contrary to prior posts, many of the
> popular Linux releases  (UBUNTU in particular) are notorious for NOT
> supporting the latest release of MONO.   That is not to say that you
> cannot build the latest version of MONO, but the "regular"
> repositories of supported software won't have it.   All religious
> preferences aside,  If you want to pick a linux distro with the latest
> and greatest MONO has to provide  I would recommend you go to the
> Novell  SuSe distribution. 
>
> There are always arguments on both sides of the questions that touch
> the religion wars off.  For me, in this project, the most telling sign
> that Windows is the "preference" of the core developers  is that there
> is still little or no support for the MONOdevelope IDE.  Make and
> build on Linux from source still depends on the old-school command
> line tools.  Lots of people are comfortable enough with their Linux
> skills to cope with that requirement.. 
>
> Personally,  I'm one of the "irrational" believers that we vote
> loudest with our actions, so I pay to host linux machines for our
> internal OpenSim development machines, and generally make it known I
> prefer NOT to pay Microsoft whenever that option presents itself.  
> Your Satisfaction is not guaranteed by adopting that plan  :)
>
> D.
>
>
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Prebuild was getting a little dated for monodevelop and our build system
didn't produce proper solution files for monodevelop. Therfore
monodevelop got a bad rap as being a hack, half implemented, etc. . So,
I reworked our build system a little bit, adding some patches upstream
to Prebuild.exe to provide proper solutions to our build system to
support both monodevelop and xbuild.

Now monodevelop may be used as a fully working IDE for OpenSim, debugger
included. Also, xbuild for the command line works. And, Native git
support is slated for Monodevelop 2.6. I have never used the free VS,
but this might be a viable alternative for Windows users as well.

Here are some notes about the updates and setting your addon-module
prebuild.xml files to work with the new system. These is also a small
python script to help with the migration. The link is here:
http://bluewallvirtual.com/node/9 . (Teravus got the search working on
opensimulator.org \o/ , I will try to update the site there with this
information when time allows.

It is good that we are striving for platform neutrality. This allows a
person to use whatever tools are suited best for their abilities and taste.

Thanks!
BlueWall
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