[Opensim-users] Warning, one month Warning
Justin Clark-Casey
jjustincc at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 4 19:38:49 UTC 2010
Please let's not turn this into a flamewar. As far as I'm concerned, constructive criticism of OpenSim is fine but extended personal exchanges are not. This whole 'debate' was covered extensively last April.
If this continues to degenerate I will moderate certain posts for a while.
Thanks,
justincc
John Ward wrote:
> Where did I say "never reply to this group again"? Yesterday you left
> because of the danger of what the devs could put in Opensim. Today you
> add it's because of something I said that I never did say.
>
> I'll inject the truth from our private conversation. You said "No
> replies will be coming from me again on this topic." I did respond with
> "I'd prefer you not respond, especially to the lists. I don't find your
> dispersions or paranoia useful."
>
> I wish you were honest about your intenstions and didn't reply. If you
> are leaving the Opensim community then I do wish you would stop posting
> too. At the very least you need to stop lying and stop the
> mis-characterizations.
>
> Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
>
> John.
>
> On 03/04/2010 11:00 AM, John Mieske wrote:
>> This is not fun to me.. and with people like John Ward telling me to
>> never reply to this group again is why I got tired of OpenSim and why I
>> decided its not worth my time to help with it any longer.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Karen Palen <karenpalensl at gmail.com
>> <mailto:karenpalensl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> This is a learning process for all of us!
>>
>> Hopefully a relatively fun way to learn though :-)
>>
>> Karen
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Master_Mirage
>> <mirage123 at verizon.net <mailto:mirage123 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The point is that if you run "development" software for
>> "production" you
>> WILL have problems!
>>
>> One of the subtle differences between OpenSource development
>> "closed source"
>> development is that "there is no bottom to the rabbit hole"! You
>> can change
>> anything and run the most unstable "bleeding edge" software
>> imaginable.
>>
>> Commercial ("closed source") software does not get released
>> until much later
>> in the design cycle. If OpenSim were "closed source" then likely
>> V0.6.7
>> would be "production" and V 0.6.8 would be "beta" - if indeed
>> ANY of it was
>> allowed outside the factory!
>>
>> Essentially the difference is that you get to make the choice
>> and live with
>> the results!
>>
>> If you are prepared for things a lot more subtle than the April
>> 1 pranks to
>> go wrong then running the "head" revision helps the developers
>> by testing
>> the software in a realistic environment using "standard idiots"
>> as uisers.
>>
>> If you are trying to build a virtual world and want to
>> concentrate on
>> getting stuff built and working "in world" then you should be
>> using one of
>> the release versions!
>>
>> Just because the nightly builds or "head" version doesn't break
>> often does *
>> not* mean that they won't break!
>>
>> The April 1 antics should serve as a reminder of this!
>>
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Master_Mirage
>> <mirage123 at verizon.net <mailto:mirage123 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Yah i remeber last year, got alot of ppl mad too. The problem
>> wasent so
>> > mutch
>> > about the prank it was not knowing one would be played.
>> Hopefully at least
>> > this time grid ops are better informed than last time.
>> > So in that way i have to say ty for the reminder.
>> > Stick ppl was funny just happened in an un-expected time
>> and way.
>> > It was quickly un-done and as said allready check mantis on
>> that day as
>> > they
>> > usualy allready have away to counter it if needed.
>> > As far as If its right or wrong to do it. Ill avoid that
>> topic lol.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Well for me last year was a matter of not knowing what was
>> beeing reffered
>> too.
>> It was at the same time as real virus threat was bbeing warrned
>> about and me
>> not knowing exactly what it was. Thought that thay were talking
>> about a
>> trick on OSG users or a joke just between devs ect..
>> I never considered it would be done in the master svn code.
>> When i saw that something was wrong, It became a series of
>> things as i
>> dident know and made the worst assumption and that my system had
>> been hacked
>> and nothing todo with the build.
>>
>> Anyway, For me it came down to just not knowing what was beeing
>> reffered
>> too.
>> I really dident care about the prank its selph. At the same time
>> there were
>> some that seemed to be using it as an excuse to make alot of
>> trouble. Im
>> shure theres some that remeber that too.
>> New ppl may be getting the wrong impression and dont know what
>> scars there
>> were from then.
>>
>> In hindsight (now that i know) its not a big deal and is done to
>> have fun.
>> It doset make it into tagged rev. it dosent harm data or have
>> some black
>> hidden stuff in it. Its just a joke and lives for one day in a
>> dev. git
>> build is all.
>>
>> The sky is not falling :) Have some fun if its done at all this
>> year.
>>
>>
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