[Opensim-users] Warning, one month Warning
John Ward
jward at uci.edu
Thu Mar 4 19:27:24 UTC 2010
Where did I say "never reply to this group again"? Yesterday you left
because of the danger of what the devs could put in Opensim. Today you
add it's because of something I said that I never did say.
I'll inject the truth from our private conversation. You said "No
replies will be coming from me again on this topic." I did respond with
"I'd prefer you not respond, especially to the lists. I don't find your
dispersions or paranoia useful."
I wish you were honest about your intenstions and didn't reply. If you
are leaving the Opensim community then I do wish you would stop posting
too. At the very least you need to stop lying and stop the
mis-characterizations.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
John.
On 03/04/2010 11:00 AM, John Mieske wrote:
> This is not fun to me.. and with people like John Ward telling me to
> never reply to this group again is why I got tired of OpenSim and why I
> decided its not worth my time to help with it any longer.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Karen Palen <karenpalensl at gmail.com
> <mailto:karenpalensl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> This is a learning process for all of us!
>
> Hopefully a relatively fun way to learn though :-)
>
> Karen
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Master_Mirage
> <mirage123 at verizon.net <mailto:mirage123 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
> The point is that if you run "development" software for
> "production" you
> WILL have problems!
>
> One of the subtle differences between OpenSource development
> "closed source"
> development is that "there is no bottom to the rabbit hole"! You
> can change
> anything and run the most unstable "bleeding edge" software
> imaginable.
>
> Commercial ("closed source") software does not get released
> until much later
> in the design cycle. If OpenSim were "closed source" then likely
> V0.6.7
> would be "production" and V 0.6.8 would be "beta" - if indeed
> ANY of it was
> allowed outside the factory!
>
> Essentially the difference is that you get to make the choice
> and live with
> the results!
>
> If you are prepared for things a lot more subtle than the April
> 1 pranks to
> go wrong then running the "head" revision helps the developers
> by testing
> the software in a realistic environment using "standard idiots"
> as uisers.
>
> If you are trying to build a virtual world and want to
> concentrate on
> getting stuff built and working "in world" then you should be
> using one of
> the release versions!
>
> Just because the nightly builds or "head" version doesn't break
> often does *
> not* mean that they won't break!
>
> The April 1 antics should serve as a reminder of this!
>
> Karen
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Master_Mirage
> <mirage123 at verizon.net <mailto:mirage123 at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yah i remeber last year, got alot of ppl mad too. The problem
> wasent so
> > mutch
> > about the prank it was not knowing one would be played.
> Hopefully at least
> > this time grid ops are better informed than last time.
> > So in that way i have to say ty for the reminder.
> > Stick ppl was funny just happened in an un-expected time and way.
> > It was quickly un-done and as said allready check mantis on
> that day as
> > they
> > usualy allready have away to counter it if needed.
> > As far as If its right or wrong to do it. Ill avoid that
> topic lol.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Well for me last year was a matter of not knowing what was
> beeing reffered
> too.
> It was at the same time as real virus threat was bbeing warrned
> about and me
> not knowing exactly what it was. Thought that thay were talking
> about a
> trick on OSG users or a joke just between devs ect..
> I never considered it would be done in the master svn code.
> When i saw that something was wrong, It became a series of
> things as i
> dident know and made the worst assumption and that my system had
> been hacked
> and nothing todo with the build.
>
> Anyway, For me it came down to just not knowing what was beeing
> reffered
> too.
> I really dident care about the prank its selph. At the same time
> there were
> some that seemed to be using it as an excuse to make alot of
> trouble. Im
> shure theres some that remeber that too.
> New ppl may be getting the wrong impression and dont know what
> scars there
> were from then.
>
> In hindsight (now that i know) its not a big deal and is done to
> have fun.
> It doset make it into tagged rev. it dosent harm data or have
> some black
> hidden stuff in it. Its just a joke and lives for one day in a
> dev. git
> build is all.
>
> The sky is not falling :) Have some fun if its done at all this
> year.
>
>
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