[Opensim-users] Moving my animations/gestures from SL to OPenSIm

Mon Sep 21 23:14:59 UTC 2009

Thanks for the information Ryan!

     I appreciate that.  I'm coming to terms with the possibility that some
of my creations in Second Life will be better off in OpenSim if I just
recreate them from scratch.  While a bit tedious and very time consuming,
I've found a bit of a silver lining...

     Earlier today I set up two PC's side by side.  One is logged into
Second Life.  The other is connected to my local OpenSim server.  I've
basically been rezzing a build of mine in SL and then piece by piece
recreating it in OpenSim.  Very slow process, but in the process, I'm
rebuilding things that I'd originally constructed in SL back in 2004 and
2005.  Already I'm seeing numerous "shortcuts" as I'm rebuilding these
things where I now know how to use far fewer prims for things like window
pane dividers, etc.  Back then I used lots of single long prims where now I
know how to usehollowed out flat prims to use less prims.  And occasionally
I use sculpted prims now (though I don't really like them) for windows and
doors.

     So while this is a slow process, it is helping me greatly improve many
of my old builds.  Of course, Second Inventory and Meerkat will come in
handy as well...

     I guess the moral of the email is... It's not a bad idea to have and
know how to use multiple tools to achieve the same end goal.  Who knows when
a tool like Second Inventory or Meerkat won't work down the road.  Best to
understand the alternatives just in case.

:)

- Len

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Ryan Tanay <ryantanay at newevolution.org>wrote:

> I'm currently using Second Inventory to copy assets of all types from
> Second Life to OpenSim.  While Second Inventory makes backing up your entire
> inventory a snap, with a single right-click and "backup folder" command that
> can be used to pull down your entire "My Inventory" folder, putting assets
> back up, be it to Second Life or an OpenSim install is not quite as
> automated.
> For simple assets like textures, clothing, sounds, scripts and animations,
> you have to open each asset individually by double-clicking, go to a
> pulldown menu and select restore, and then click "OK" on the successfully
> backed up confirmation window.  For objects, the process is even more
> involved, with another window confirming the textures applied to the objects
> various prims, and a final window which allows you to then take the object
> that's been re-rezzed in OpenSim.  Another note, all textures that are
> included in objects you restore using Second Inventory show up in your
> textures folder with the naming convention <object name>_1, with the number
> iterating for each texture included in the object.  While this is quite
> convenient for knowing which texture goes with which object, it effectively
> eliminates descriptive naming for the texture itself.
>
> In short, while Second Inventory is excellent for creating a local backup
> of your Second Life or OpenSim inventory, using it to transfer large numbers
> of assets from one metaverse to another can get tedious.  My suggestion
> would be to only use Second Inventory to back up and restore objects, but if
> you already have local copies of textures, animations, sounds etc., it's
> faster to just re-upload them through your SL browser of choice than use
> Second Inventory to backup and restore them from another metaverse.
>
> ~Ryan
>
> On Sep 20, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Len Brown wrote:
>
> Really?  If that is true then wonderful!
>
> Is there anyone who currently owns Second Inventory that can verify this
> for me/us?  If it still works to backup from SL to OS (our own created
> objects, of course) then I will purchase Second Inventory this morning.
>
> Thanks Chris for the heads up!
>
> - Len
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Chris Hart <Chris at codetorque.co.uk>wrote:
>
>>  Second Inventory certainly works for animations from SL to OpenSim last
>> time I tried it (which admittedly was a couple of months ago) – then once
>> you have them in OpenSim you can use OARs and potentially IARs (again I’ve
>> not tested) to transfer them between OpenSim grids a little more elegantly.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> *From:* opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:
>> opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] *On Behalf Of *Len Brown
>> *Sent:* 20 September 2009 10:27 AM
>>
>> *To:* opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] Moving my animations/gestures from SL to
>> OPenSIm
>>
>>
>> I'd love to know the answer to your question as well.
>>
>>      I logged into SL a little while ago and cringed at the realization
>> that I now have over 34,000 objects in my inventory.  I estimate about
>> 12,000 are self-created over the last four years of building in SL.  From
>> all kinds of furniture and plants/trees, to dozens of houses, shops and
>> other buildings I've built from scratch.
>>
>>      But in line with your original post, I too have a number of
>> animations/gestures I created for SL and have since inadvertently lost the
>> original source files to when I imported them originally into SL.
>>
>>      I was going to suggest Second Inventory, but you like I want to move
>> these things over to OpenSim.  Ugh...
>>
>> - Len W. Brown
>>      lenwbrown at gmail.com
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Karen Palen <karen_palen at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> BUMP!
>>
>> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Karen Palen <karen_palen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Karen Palen <karen_palen at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: [Opensim-users] Moving my animations/gestures from SL to
>> OPenSIm
>> > To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:33 PM
>>
>> > I have been researching ways to move
>> > my inventory from Second Life to OpenSim and back.
>> >
>> > I do want to emphasize that these are animations that *I*
>> > created and uploaded, I am not looking for a piracy tool
>> > here!
>> >
>> > My goal is to do offline development of things then move
>> > the resulting "thing" - avatar, object, or a whole sim onto
>> > the appropriate grid.
>> >
>> > So far I have found workable ways to do this for everything
>> > except animations.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to recreate the BVH file either from
>> > TestClient or one of the viewers?
>> >
>> > I have about 90% of the original BVH files, but there are a
>> > few that got changed in various ways so it would be nice to
>> > extract the exact animation form my Second Life inventory.
>> >
>> > In addition there are often a dozen versions of an
>> > animation as things get tweaked and it can be a pain to
>> > figure out which one finally got used.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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