[Opensim-users] standalone vs. grid
Lc
lcc1967 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 26 16:59:24 UTC 2008
sounds good to me.
HG is included in the RegionServer now (opensim.exe). You activate it with
an option.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>wrote:
>
>
> What do you think of the following. Let me know if my
> assumptions are incorrect:
>
>
> 1. Logical Space is defined as following:
>
> 1.1 A Grid contains one or more Estates in a Cartesian space
> (Grid coordinates define Regions (i.e., Sims)
> 1.2 An Estate contains one or more Regions (i.e., Sims)
> 1.3 A Region contains one or more Parcels
>
> 2. Physical space is defined by Mode
>
> 2.1 StandAlone Mode is one computer, running one instance
> of Opensim.exe
> 2.2 Grid Mode is one or more computers in the following configurations:
> 2.2.1 Client Config: A region connected to a grid (i.e., OSGrid)
> In Config 1, the client runs its own
> opensim.exe, and
> its own database to handle that region's activities
> 2.2.2 Server Config: UGAIM server machine(s) that maintain
> client
> Regions (note: Client and Server could be the
> same machine)
> 2.2.3 Hypergrid Config (evolving): freeform hyperlinked
> model, more
> like how the web functions than a client/server
> model.
>
> Thoughts welcome. BTW, in Space #2. Server Config, does OSGrid
> run its own Opensim.exe or is that needed only by the Region simulators
> that connect to it?
>
> -p
>
>
> Lc wrote:
> > Commonly used : A grid is more an architectural view :
> > One centralised UGAIM where several regionsServer can logged and
> > share ressources.
> >
> > Sacha
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu
> > <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, there is some confusion in use of the word "grid" in the
> > web pages.
> > I have been gathering information to create a tutorial on getting
> > started, which
> > is why I am asking the questions.
> >
> > For example, see: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Configuration
> >
> > Under "Standalone mode", there is the phrase "Grid Location". But
> this
> > isn't a grid
> > location because in Standalone mode one is not running a grid -- it
> is
> > the location in
> > something else: an Estate? Then, in the discussion of "multiple
> > regions", there is
> > discussion of "grid coordinates". All of this is confusing if one
> > is not
> > using a grid.
> >
> > Here is my understanding:
> >
> > An Estate is a set of Regions
> > A Region is the same thing as a Sim (65,536 sq. meters)
> > A collection of Sims (or equivalently, Regions) is an (Estate) ?
> >
> > These are logical distinctions, whereas, the term "grid" seems to be
> > an architectural or physical distinction (i.e., how logical
> > concepts map
> > to physically located server equipment).
> >
> > -p
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lc wrote:
> > > short answer :
> > >
> > > standalone : all services and regions are one program that can
> > handle
> > > x regions (the files under Regions/*.xml) as long as your system
> > > support it.
> > > Grid : all the services could be spread on diferents computers
> > > eventually, and the same or any other computer could run the region
> > > server.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Paul Fishwick
> > <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>
> > > <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Still trying to get my head around the exact differences
> between
> > > StandAlone vs. Grid. At one time, I thought the word "grid"
> > meant
> > > the rectangular configuration of regions. Is this rectangular
> > > collection
> > > of regions called the "sim" instead ? I can see that in grid
> > > mode, one
> > > could
> > > fire up each of the 5 main servers + the OpenSim process,
> > each on
> > > a separate computer. One would just reset the .xml files to
> > point to
> > > the correct IPs and database(s)?
> > >
> > > However, could one partition the sim by computer? If so, what
> is
> > > the mapping of computers to sim in terms of where the
> > database(s)
> > > are located and where the 6 processes are located (UGAIM +
> > > OpenSim)?
> > >
> > > For example, if I were to recommend that at the university
> > level,
> > > they should have a grid of, say, 16x16 regions, could this
> > be divided
> > > into 4 4x4 sims, each having separate sets of computers?
> > Thanks --
> > > I've looked online but have not seen this level of detail--I
> > may be
> > > looking in the wrong place.
> > > -paul
> > >
> > >
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