sounds good to me.<br><br>HG is included in the RegionServer now (opensim.exe). You activate it with an option.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Paul Fishwick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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What do you think of the following. Let me know if my<br>
assumptions are incorrect:<br>
<br>
<br>
1. Logical Space is defined as following:<br>
<br>
1.1 A Grid contains one or more Estates in a Cartesian space<br>
(Grid coordinates define Regions (i.e., Sims)<br>
1.2 An Estate contains one or more Regions (i.e., Sims)<br>
1.3 A Region contains one or more Parcels<br>
<br>
2. Physical space is defined by Mode<br>
<br>
2.1 StandAlone Mode is one computer, running one instance<br>
of Opensim.exe<br>
2.2 Grid Mode is one or more computers in the following configurations:<br>
2.2.1 Client Config: A region connected to a grid (i.e., OSGrid)<br>
In Config 1, the client runs its own<br>
opensim.exe, and<br>
its own database to handle that region's activities<br>
2.2.2 Server Config: UGAIM server machine(s) that maintain<br>
client<br>
Regions (note: Client and Server could be the<br>
same machine)<br>
2.2.3 Hypergrid Config (evolving): freeform hyperlinked<br>
model, more<br>
like how the web functions than a client/server<br>
model.<br>
<br>
Thoughts welcome. BTW, in Space #2. Server Config, does OSGrid<br>
run its own Opensim.exe or is that needed only by the Region simulators<br>
that connect to it?<br>
<br>
-p<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<br>
Lc wrote:<br>
> Commonly used : A grid is more an architectural view :<br>
> One centralised UGAIM where several regionsServer can logged and<br>
> share ressources.<br>
><br>
> Sacha<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Paul Fishwick <<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thanks, there is some confusion in use of the word "grid" in the<br>
> web pages.<br>
> I have been gathering information to create a tutorial on getting<br>
> started, which<br>
> is why I am asking the questions.<br>
><br>
> For example, see: <a href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Configuration" target="_blank">http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Configuration</a><br>
><br>
> Under "Standalone mode", there is the phrase "Grid Location". But this<br>
> isn't a grid<br>
> location because in Standalone mode one is not running a grid -- it is<br>
> the location in<br>
> something else: an Estate? Then, in the discussion of "multiple<br>
> regions", there is<br>
> discussion of "grid coordinates". All of this is confusing if one<br>
> is not<br>
> using a grid.<br>
><br>
> Here is my understanding:<br>
><br>
> An Estate is a set of Regions<br>
> A Region is the same thing as a Sim (65,536 sq. meters)<br>
> A collection of Sims (or equivalently, Regions) is an (Estate) ?<br>
><br>
> These are logical distinctions, whereas, the term "grid" seems to be<br>
> an architectural or physical distinction (i.e., how logical<br>
> concepts map<br>
> to physically located server equipment).<br>
><br>
> -p<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Lc wrote:<br>
> > short answer :<br>
> ><br>
> > standalone : all services and regions are one program that can<br>
> handle<br>
> > x regions (the files under Regions/*.xml) as long as your system<br>
> > support it.<br>
> > Grid : all the services could be spread on diferents computers<br>
> > eventually, and the same or any other computer could run the region<br>
> > server.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Paul Fishwick<br>
> <<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>><br>
</div></div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fishwick@cise.ufl.edu">fishwick@cise.ufl.edu</a>>>><br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Still trying to get my head around the exact differences between<br>
> > StandAlone vs. Grid. At one time, I thought the word "grid"<br>
> meant<br>
> > the rectangular configuration of regions. Is this rectangular<br>
> > collection<br>
> > of regions called the "sim" instead ? I can see that in grid<br>
> > mode, one<br>
> > could<br>
> > fire up each of the 5 main servers + the OpenSim process,<br>
> each on<br>
> > a separate computer. One would just reset the .xml files to<br>
> point to<br>
> > the correct IPs and database(s)?<br>
> ><br>
> > However, could one partition the sim by computer? If so, what is<br>
> > the mapping of computers to sim in terms of where the<br>
> database(s)<br>
> > are located and where the 6 processes are located (UGAIM +<br>
> > OpenSim)?<br>
> ><br>
> > For example, if I were to recommend that at the university<br>
> level,<br>
> > they should have a grid of, say, 16x16 regions, could this<br>
> be divided<br>
> > into 4 4x4 sims, each having separate sets of computers?<br>
> Thanks --<br>
> > I've looked online but have not seen this level of detail--I<br>
> may be<br>
> > looking in the wrong place.<br>
> > -paul<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
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