[Opensim-users] realxtend integration

[Ryan McDougall]

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Jeroen van Veen <j.veenvan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Thanks for answering. I got two more questions though :-)
> 1. With the amount of work already done by realxtend, how much time is
> estimated for a new viewer build from scratch?

Its hard to estimate, since you can pick any timeframe and be pretty
sure you'll wont have achieved what you started out with.

We are planning to have something usable by the end of 2009. More if
there is community help. We intend to get as far as possible by
reusing existing libraries as much as possible.

> 2. Are there any plans to build on the bsd-licensed verse udp protocol?
> (http://www.uni-verse.org/)

I am afraid that I am unfamiliar with it. What I can say that when
making a new viewer with our resources, there is no opportunity to
explore with protocols. We will focus on reX as a module on OpenSim
for the server side.

>
> 2008/12/11 Ryan McDougall <sempuki1 at gmail.com>
>>
>> Let me try to clear up what I am able to.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Jeroen van Veen <j.veenvan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I've been watching the news about RealXtend integration a bit. Not sure
>> > if i
>> > understand things right though:
>> > realxtend viewer = superior to any other viewer out there, based on the
>> > most
>> > mature 3d-engine(Ogre), but build on LindenLabs code(gpl), bsd license
>> > preferred
>>
>> The legacy reX viewer is based on a fork of LL code, and uses Ogre for
>> rendering. "Superior" is in the eyes of the beholder.
>>
>> > other viewers =bsd-licensed, but not even close to the current state of
>> > lindenlabs viewer. C# is a pain in the a## when it comes to integration
>> > with
>> > existing components like 3d-engines, so c++ viewer preferred?
>> >
>> > Problem: libomv is c#, not c++. Solution? If any?
>> > Realxtend rumour: viewer will be bsd-licensed at some point. c++ port
>> > for
>> > libomv? or? Licensing issues with lindens?
>>
>> The legacy viewer will never be BSD, as most of the copyright is to
>> LL. We will start from scratch reusing *none* of LL code, and will
>> have an explicit policy of *never* using the LL source code as even a
>> reference, as the law frowns on this without extra staff for
>> clean-room reverse engineering, which we cannot afford.
>>
>> That is not as much of a problem as might be assumed since reX and
>> OpenSim server compatibility is our primary focus, and we are able to
>> use those as a reference with no concern.
>>
>> > Realxtend module for opensim: Great, no more fork, no more double work,
>> > faster development, cooperation, world peace
>>
>> That is the intent, but we'll need help from everyone in OpenSim
>> community to achieve it. Kumbaya.
>>
>> >
>> > Phrearch
>>
>> Cheers,
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