[Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

[James Hughes]

I think Mono 3.10 is probably about the latest version provided now, so
it will probably be a while. Mono 4 will have the latest MS code drop,
so we will have to see how that plays out. I think that most distros
will ship 3.x by that time, and there should be no worries. If we
absolutely had to, I guess we could make Prebuild.exe more dynamic and
take a command line toolset version to override the prebuild.xml files.
We have a while to figure it out, people that are hitting this already
are testing and either know how, or will learn how to manually deal with
it.

-BlueWall

On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 06:24 -0800, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
> And which distros currently ship Mono 4.x? And if there currently were
> any, would specifying an alternate compilation method be holding them
> back? We used to have multiple prebuild bat files. Maybe we need
> something similar for the new Mono.
> 
> 
> 
> What about other software that uses Mono? What are they doing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:12 AM, James Hughes
> <jamesh at bluewallgroup.com> wrote:
>         I would say that it is a matter of not holding people back.
>         This is a
>         breaking point if mono no longer supports the 4.0 toolset, and
>         I would
>         say that when a majority of distros make the jump to Mono 4.x,
>         we would
>         be holding users of those distros back, and we shouldn't. I
>         think that
>         the users of the minority of distros stuck on versions of Mono
>         before
>         3.x (that is where toolset 4.5 is supported) would need to
>         just run
>         OpenSim releases supported on their distro if they are married
>         to that
>         distro. Windows users are already covered as well.
>         
>         Just my two cents ...
>         
>         -BlueWall
>         
>         On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 05:18 -0800, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
>         > There already is a profile chosen by the project. If the
>         latest mono
>         > dev master can't compile with it, then those with the
>         expertise to run
>         > the latest dev master mono can use that expertise to change
>         the
>         > profile to a new one. If OpenSimulator doesn't require the
>         new profile
>         > to run on older installations, then there is no reason to
>         make those
>         > who use existing working installations, including those
>         using one of
>         > the most popular server platforms (Debian stable) to go thru
>         the
>         > effort of upgrading. As of now there is no such dependency
>         in OpenSim
>         > core. We should add one just so people who insist on the
>         bleeding edge
>         > mono dev code don't have to change a single line in a single
>         file? If
>         > they are such linux experts, let them write a script that
>         > automatically detects and changes it.
>         >
>         >
>         > Much of the real world does not use bleeding edge software
>         and doesn't
>         > have the resources to update at the drop of a hat. Quite
>         often new
>         > software has to go thru a vetting process that for large
>         installations
>         > can even take years. Often educational institutions have IT
>         > bureaucracies which prevent such updates. Should we cut them
>         off also?
>         > How about installations that have other .NET applications
>         besides
>         > OpenSimulator? Will they work with the new Mono?
>         >
>         >
>         
>         
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