[Opensim-dev] Wormhole in OpenSIM?

[Diva Canto]

I don't think it's lost in translation as I can read and understand 
Spanish -- it's funny that the translator transforms Hypergrid into 
Hypergreen :-)

You seem to be mixing many different things. The Linden viewer has its 
own version of http redirects. When we have virtual worlds on the 
regular web browser, the Hypergrid will use http redirects, no more no 
less. (I have a version of the Hypergrid that does exactly that)

But Hypergrid without control on the part of grid operators would be a 
really bad idea. Not all virtual worlds want to be part of it. And just 
because your grid links to, say, osgrid doesn't mean that osgrid wants 
to link back to yours. Just like on the web: just because your site 
links to, say, Slashdot doesn't mean that Slashdot wants to link back to 
your site. The static hyperlinks reflect social dynamics, like on the 
web or even like on twitter.
The process to discover virtual worlds that aren't linked needs 
additional services, like search or directories.

On 10/25/2010 10:21 AM, Mentolyptus wrote:
> I regret the poor quality of my English, and need to use a translator, 
> I think this merely to explain clearly the idea.
> Diva, I understand basically how it works Hypergrid, although it is a 
> certainty that I do not understand as well as you. Anyway, what I 
> propose is not a criticism of the current operation of hypergrid, but 
> an idea looking for a way to allow the unification of hypergrid. I 
> think the basic idea has been misunderstood.
> Thanks for replying, and thanks to all the development team for the 
> excellent work they do for us. If some of the idea put forward has 
> been going around in someone's head, who knows, maybe it is recycled 
> into something good :)
> if there is anyway so there will be many good things.
>
> A Hypergreen free, united without borders, where all grids are joined 
> into one, sounds like a good idea
> ----------------------------------
>
> Yo lamento la mala calidad de mi ingles, y necesitar usar un 
> traductor, pienso que esto limita poder explicar claramente la idea. 
> Diva, entiendo basicamente como funciona hypergrid, aunque es una 
> certeza que no lo comprendo tan bien como usted. De todas formas lo 
> que propongo no es una critica al actual funcionamiento de hypergrid, 
> sino una idea a futuro para una forma de permitir la unificacion del 
> hypergrid. Pienso que la idea de fondo se ha malentendido.
> Gracias por responder, y gracias a todo el equipo de desarrollo por el 
> excelente trabajo que hacen por nosotros. Si algo de la idea planteada 
> ha quedado dando vueltas en la cabeza de alguien, quien sabe, quizas 
> se recicle en algo bueno :) si no es asi de todas formas habra muchas 
> cosas buenas.
>
> Un hypergrid libre, unificado sin fronteras, donde todos los grids se 
> unen en uno solo, suena como una buena idea
>
>
>
> El 25/10/10 14:50, Diva Canto escribió:
>> If that's all, then ... ok. I thought I heard wishes of a technical 
>> nature, and that, perhaps, he doesn't understand how link-region 
>> works, and what it does. Perhaps he only knows HG TPs through the map 
>> or something. (all hg link UIs end up placing hyperlinks on the maps, 
>> but all except link-region end up placing them very far away from the 
>> main cluster of regions)
>>
>> On 10/25/2010 9:42 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
>>> Diva,
>>>
>>> He doesn't (necessarily) want to link to them - he wants them to 
>>> link to him. So that in that foreign grid, the link to his grid acts 
>>> in that grid, like a hyperlink to your webpage does on someone 
>>> else's page.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that all he needs to do is contact the foreign grid 
>>> operator and see if they'd be willing to link to a sim in his grid.
>>>
>>> -ste
>>>
>>> On 10/25/10 12:38 PM, Diva Canto wrote:
>>>> That's how the HG works. HG 1.5 is on a grid-basis. The entrance to
>>>> grids is directed at the Gatekeeper service.
>>>> When you link to, for exmple, hg.osgrid.org:80 you are requesting the
>>>> Gatekeeper of osgrid to link to whatever the default region entry 
>>>> is in
>>>> OSGrid, consequently being able to visit all regions in OSGrid that
>>>> allow foreign visitors. When you link to hg.osgrid.org:80:Some Region
>>>> you are requesting th Gatekeeper to link to a specific region on that
>>>> grid, permissions allowing.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm still missing something.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/25/2010 9:19 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
>>>>> It sounds like what he wants is for foreign grids to link to a region
>>>>> in his grid, so that users from that grid can get to his, without him
>>>>> having to maintain a region in the other grid.
>>>>>
>>>>> -ste
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/25/10 12:16 PM, Jor3l Boa wrote:
>>>>>> Yes diva, but his idea is when you tp to that region actually switch
>>>>>> grids (tp-to-grid instead of tp-to-sim), actually makes sense if you
>>>>>> want people visit a bunch of regions with one entrance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/10/25 Diva Canto <diva at metaverseink.com
>>>>>> <mailto:diva at metaverseink.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but what you're describing is how the
>>>>>> Hypergrid works, redirect and all. It's not an http redirect,
>>>>>> because the viewer doesn't do that protocol, but it's
>>>>>> TeleportFinish, which is the Linden equivalent of an http redirect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use the link-region console command you place a region on
>>>>>> your map (you see it on your map) that belongs to another grid.
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