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I don't think it's lost in translation as I can read and understand
Spanish -- it's funny that the translator transforms Hypergrid into
Hypergreen :-)<br>
<br>
You seem to be mixing many different things. The Linden viewer has
its own version of http redirects. When we have virtual worlds on
the regular web browser, the Hypergrid will use http redirects, no
more no less. (I have a version of the Hypergrid that does exactly
that)<br>
<br>
But Hypergrid without control on the part of grid operators would be
a really bad idea. Not all virtual worlds want to be part of it. And
just because your grid links to, say, osgrid doesn't mean that
osgrid wants to link back to yours. Just like on the web: just
because your site links to, say, Slashdot doesn't mean that Slashdot
wants to link back to your site. The static hyperlinks reflect
social dynamics, like on the web or even like on twitter. <br>
The process to discover virtual worlds that aren't linked needs
additional services, like search or directories. <br>
<br>
On 10/25/2010 10:21 AM, Mentolyptus wrote:
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regret the poor quality of my English, and need to use a
translator, I think this merely to explain clearly the idea.<br>
Diva, I understand basically how it works Hypergrid, although it
is a certainty that I do not understand as well as you. Anyway,
what I propose is not a criticism of the current operation of
hypergrid, but an idea looking for a way to allow the
unification of hypergrid. I think the basic idea has been
misunderstood.<br>
Thanks for replying, and thanks to all the development team for
the excellent work they do for us. If some of the idea put
forward has been going around in someone's head, who knows,
maybe it is recycled into something good :)<br>
if there is anyway so there will be many good things.<br>
<br>
A Hypergreen free, united without borders, where all grids are
joined into one, sounds like a good idea<br>
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Yo lamento la mala calidad de mi ingles, y necesitar usar un
traductor, pienso que esto limita poder explicar claramente la
idea. Diva, entiendo basicamente como funciona hypergrid, aunque
es una certeza que no lo comprendo tan bien como usted. De todas
formas lo que propongo no es una critica al actual
funcionamiento de hypergrid, sino una idea a futuro para una
forma de permitir la unificacion del hypergrid. Pienso que la
idea de fondo se ha malentendido. <br>
Gracias por responder, y gracias a todo el equipo de desarrollo
por el excelente trabajo que hacen por nosotros. Si algo de la
idea planteada ha quedado dando vueltas en la cabeza de alguien,
quien sabe, quizas se recicle en algo bueno :) si no es asi de
todas formas habra muchas cosas buenas.<br>
<br>
Un hypergrid libre, unificado sin fronteras, donde todos los
grids se unen en uno solo, suena como una buena idea</small><br>
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El 25/10/10 14:50, Diva Canto escribió:
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type="cite">If that's all, then ... ok. I thought I heard wishes
of a technical nature, and that, perhaps, he doesn't understand
how link-region works, and what it does. Perhaps he only knows
HG TPs through the map or something. (all hg link UIs end up
placing hyperlinks on the maps, but all except link-region end
up placing them very far away from the main cluster of regions)
<br>
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On 10/25/2010 9:42 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Diva, <br>
<br>
He doesn't (necessarily) want to link to them - he wants them
to link to him. So that in that foreign grid, the link to his
grid acts in that grid, like a hyperlink to your webpage does
on someone else's page. <br>
<br>
It seems to me that all he needs to do is contact the foreign
grid operator and see if they'd be willing to link to a sim in
his grid. <br>
<br>
-ste <br>
<br>
On 10/25/10 12:38 PM, Diva Canto wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">That's how the HG works. HG 1.5 is on
a grid-basis. The entrance to <br>
grids is directed at the Gatekeeper service. <br>
When you link to, for exmple, hg.osgrid.org:80 you are
requesting the <br>
Gatekeeper of osgrid to link to whatever the default region
entry is in <br>
OSGrid, consequently being able to visit all regions in
OSGrid that <br>
allow foreign visitors. When you link to
hg.osgrid.org:80:Some Region <br>
you are requesting th Gatekeeper to link to a specific
region on that <br>
grid, permissions allowing. <br>
<br>
Maybe I'm still missing something. <br>
<br>
On 10/25/2010 9:19 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">It sounds like what he wants is for
foreign grids to link to a region <br>
in his grid, so that users from that grid can get to his,
without him <br>
having to maintain a region in the other grid. <br>
<br>
-ste <br>
<br>
On 10/25/10 12:16 PM, Jor3l Boa wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Yes diva, but his idea is when you
tp to that region actually switch <br>
grids (tp-to-grid instead of tp-to-sim), actually makes
sense if you <br>
want people visit a bunch of regions with one entrance <br>
<br>
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<br>
Maybe I'm missing something, but what you're describing
is how the <br>
Hypergrid works, redirect and all. It's not an http
redirect, <br>
because the viewer doesn't do that protocol, but it's <br>
TeleportFinish, which is the Linden equivalent of an
http redirect. <br>
<br>
If you use the link-region console command you place a
region on <br>
your map (you see it on your map) that belongs to
another grid. <br>
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