[Opensim-dev] Welcome, Avatar!

diva at metaverseink.com diva at metaverseink.com
Mon Aug 23 17:02:05 UTC 2010 

Yep. We know that.
Even people on this list who ask "really simple questions" seem to be 
utterly confused.

I blame this situation on us, as a community. We have been uber-sloppy 
on conveying what the OpenSimulator project is. We have an uphill battle 
on people's perception, because most people who hear about OpenSim hear 
it in the context of Second Life, which is a *service* provided by a 
company. So immediately their perception is "OpenSim is a grid like 
Second Life" and "OpenSim project is a competitor of Linden Lab" sort of 
like another Blue Mars thingy but with the added advantage of using the 
SL viewer.

Worse, people who decide to install and run an OpenSimulator world, and 
subscribe to this and the -users list, often don't realize what they are 
doing. They think that somehow they are like what estate managers are in 
Second Life, but with more power, and therefore they look at the 
OpenSimulator project as the engineering arm of an integrated effort.

Unless we are relentless in fighting this perception, and in making 
OpenSimulator-world operators take *ownership* of what they're doing, 
we're never going to get the message right. And the fight starts with 
us, with what each one of us in this small community near the 
development kernel is conveying to our end-users and to the people we 
talk to. Small details like the graphic elements of our public presence, 
the welcome message, etc. that's what establishes or blurs the 
relationship between each of us and the OpenSimulator project.

Brianna wrote:
> To give all a morning smile..
> an impromptu poll I just did in SL
> 
> Hi, to you what is OpenSim, a definition?
> [9:15]  Sommer Shepherd: A different grid
> [9:16]  Dizsa Zuta: an ubber grid based on openlife software, osgrid and 
> 3rdrock are members
> [9:17]  Tasha Kostolany: well -- I think of -- Free and open for 
> development (or nearly free, or a lot more free than sl will ever be)
> [9:20]  Georgia Roberson: its one of those silly lil sims that LL sell 
> ain't it
> 
> Scary perceptions with some :)
> 
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> From: <diva at metaverseink.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:04 AM
> To: <opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Welcome, Avatar!
> 
>> The license that Adam gave to his SVG image has a couple of exemptions 
>> that are quite appropriate. Attribution is only required if the image 
>> is used outside the context of the OpenSimulator project; within the 
>> context of the project, attribution is not required. That's the 
>> license I gave to mine too. I suggest everyone uses those exemptions.
>>
>> Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
>>> On 23/08/10 16:54, diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>>> For those who wish to contribute more of these images, here are some
>>>> guidelines:
>>>>
>>>> - Unless your intent is to provide raw material for others to modify
>>>> (like the SVG image, for example) do not make the ready-to-use logos
>>>> big. The "Powered by OpenSimulator" logos should be DISCRETE. The one I
>>>> made is 114x27, that should give an idea for what *I* mean by discrete.
>>>> But don't take it from me. Have a look at "Powered by Apache" logos out
>>>> there; that should give you an idea of what common sense suggests for
>>>> these kinds of logos.
>>>>
>>>> - You need to include a license for the image(s) you upload and link
>>>> from that page. Images without licenses will b removed from that page.
>>>
>>> Hi Diva.  Could we require that this license be Creative Commons Zero?
>>>
>>> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>>>
>>> The other creative commons licenses require attribution to the 
>>> original author.  I don't think that this is appropriate for 
>>> community-contributed opensim logos.  Of course, there's nothing to 
>>> stop people attributing if they want to do that, just that they're 
>>> not forced to do it by the license terms.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Crista
>>>>
>>>> diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a page for OpenSimulator graphics:
>>>>> http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OpenSim_Graphics
>>>>>
>>>>> If you create variations of this art, and wish to make it publicly
>>>>> available for others to use, please add it there in a similar manner
>>>>> to the ones already there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Crista
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeroen van Veen wrote:
>>>>>> Do you have the same icon with an opaque background as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeroen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday 21 August 2010 17:15:39 Rich White wrote:
>>>>>>> Here is a chicklet icon perhaps to get the ball rolling:
>>>>>>> http://twitpic.com/2gue0y
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ====
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM, <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> P.S. For people who want to give credit to the project, the
>>>>>>>> "correct" way
>>>>>>>> of expressing it is
>>>>>>>> "Powered by OpenSim".
>>>>>>>> At some point it would be nice to have a logo with those words 
>>>>>>>> in it.
>>>>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/images?q=powered+by+apache&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=5eVvTPSNMYK 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2sAPu2cCXAg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQsAQwAA& 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> biw=1306&bih=933
>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> %3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1306&bih=933&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=powered+by+CentO 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> S&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -1 on this.
>>>>>>>>> I'm generally reluctant in using the term "OpenSim" for anything
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> than the name of this project. It's bad enough that bloggers 
>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>> public keep confusing the project with its uses, let's not give 
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> more suggestions in that direction. OpenSim is the infrastructure
>>>>>>>>> project, not its uses. The users of OpenSim are the world 
>>>>>>>>> operators,
>>>>>>>>> not the people who login to these worlds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words, when people login to an OpenSim-based world they
>>>>>>>>> are not
>>>>>>>>> "logging in to OpenSim"; they are logging in to a world that 
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> runs based on OpenSim. This may seem like an insignificant
>>>>>>>>> distinction,
>>>>>>>>> but it's not, it's huge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So let's leave it with the generic message that is has now. The
>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>> var is there for people to customize it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ai Austin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In a recent commit by Justin he suggested that if a change was
>>>>>>>>>> made to
>>>>>>>>>> the default viewer welcome message, it would be useful to get the
>>>>>>>>>> thoughts of others first. I do appreciate that most folks will 
>>>>>>>>>> alter
>>>>>>>>>> the string anyway, but it is useful out of the box to have useful
>>>>>>>>>> messages. And I had suggested a change to help differentiate
>>>>>>>>>> things a
>>>>>>>>>> bit in an immediately visible form at the user end, and to 
>>>>>>>>>> brand the
>>>>>>>>>> system in the default. Can I suggest this change and see what 
>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Opensim.ini.example "Welcome to OpenSim"
>>>>>>>>>> Robust.ini.example "Welcome to OpenSim Grid"
>>>>>>>>>> Robust.HG.ini.example "Welcome to OpenSim Hypergrid"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This would have the nice effect of differentiating which
>>>>>>>>>> [Architecture]
>>>>>>>>>> is being used immediately.
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