[Opensim-dev] Welcome, Avatar!

Brianna wwwench at gmail.com
Mon Aug 23 16:39:28 UTC 2010 

To give all a morning smile..
an impromptu poll I just did in SL

Hi, to you what is OpenSim, a definition?
[9:15]  Sommer Shepherd: A different grid
[9:16]  Dizsa Zuta: an ubber grid based on openlife software, osgrid and 
3rdrock are members
[9:17]  Tasha Kostolany: well -- I think of -- Free and open for development 
(or nearly free, or a lot more free than sl will ever be)
[9:20]  Georgia Roberson: its one of those silly lil sims that LL sell ain't 
it

Scary perceptions with some :)

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From: <diva at metaverseink.com>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:04 AM
To: <opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Welcome, Avatar!

> The license that Adam gave to his SVG image has a couple of exemptions 
> that are quite appropriate. Attribution is only required if the image is 
> used outside the context of the OpenSimulator project; within the context 
> of the project, attribution is not required. That's the license I gave to 
> mine too. I suggest everyone uses those exemptions.
>
> Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
>> On 23/08/10 16:54, diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>> For those who wish to contribute more of these images, here are some
>>> guidelines:
>>>
>>> - Unless your intent is to provide raw material for others to modify
>>> (like the SVG image, for example) do not make the ready-to-use logos
>>> big. The "Powered by OpenSimulator" logos should be DISCRETE. The one I
>>> made is 114x27, that should give an idea for what *I* mean by discrete.
>>> But don't take it from me. Have a look at "Powered by Apache" logos out
>>> there; that should give you an idea of what common sense suggests for
>>> these kinds of logos.
>>>
>>> - You need to include a license for the image(s) you upload and link
>>> from that page. Images without licenses will b removed from that page.
>>
>> Hi Diva.  Could we require that this license be Creative Commons Zero?
>>
>> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>>
>> The other creative commons licenses require attribution to the original 
>> author.  I don't think that this is appropriate for community-contributed 
>> opensim logos.  Of course, there's nothing to stop people attributing if 
>> they want to do that, just that they're not forced to do it by the 
>> license terms.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Crista
>>>
>>> diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I created a page for OpenSimulator graphics:
>>>> http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OpenSim_Graphics
>>>>
>>>> If you create variations of this art, and wish to make it publicly
>>>> available for others to use, please add it there in a similar manner
>>>> to the ones already there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Crista
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeroen van Veen wrote:
>>>>> Do you have the same icon with an opaque background as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeroen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday 21 August 2010 17:15:39 Rich White wrote:
>>>>>> Here is a chicklet icon perhaps to get the ball rolling:
>>>>>> http://twitpic.com/2gue0y
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM, <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> P.S. For people who want to give credit to the project, the
>>>>>>> "correct" way
>>>>>>> of expressing it is
>>>>>>> "Powered by OpenSim".
>>>>>>> At some point it would be nice to have a logo with those words in 
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/images?q=powered+by+apache&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=5eVvTPSNMYK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2sAPu2cCXAg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQsAQwAA&
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> biw=1306&bih=933
>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> %3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1306&bih=933&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=powered+by+CentO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> -1 on this.
>>>>>>>> I'm generally reluctant in using the term "OpenSim" for anything
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> than the name of this project. It's bad enough that bloggers and 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> public keep confusing the project with its uses, let's not give any
>>>>>>>> more suggestions in that direction. OpenSim is the infrastructure
>>>>>>>> project, not its uses. The users of OpenSim are the world 
>>>>>>>> operators,
>>>>>>>> not the people who login to these worlds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other words, when people login to an OpenSim-based world they
>>>>>>>> are not
>>>>>>>> "logging in to OpenSim"; they are logging in to a world that 
>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>> runs based on OpenSim. This may seem like an insignificant
>>>>>>>> distinction,
>>>>>>>> but it's not, it's huge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So let's leave it with the generic message that is has now. The
>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>> var is there for people to customize it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ai Austin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In a recent commit by Justin he suggested that if a change was
>>>>>>>>> made to
>>>>>>>>> the default viewer welcome message, it would be useful to get the
>>>>>>>>> thoughts of others first. I do appreciate that most folks will 
>>>>>>>>> alter
>>>>>>>>> the string anyway, but it is useful out of the box to have useful
>>>>>>>>> messages. And I had suggested a change to help differentiate
>>>>>>>>> things a
>>>>>>>>> bit in an immediately visible form at the user end, and to brand 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> system in the default. Can I suggest this change and see what 
>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Opensim.ini.example "Welcome to OpenSim"
>>>>>>>>> Robust.ini.example "Welcome to OpenSim Grid"
>>>>>>>>> Robust.HG.ini.example "Welcome to OpenSim Hypergrid"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This would have the nice effect of differentiating which
>>>>>>>>> [Architecture]
>>>>>>>>> is being used immediately.
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