[Opensim-dev] A software to connect its own region and TP in from locally...

[Olish Newman]

Hello !

Thanks a lot Stefan and Nebadon for your precious help and time on this 
topic. I will continue to develop my software then make it available for 
free and for all grids wishing to use it in the future.

Kind regards,

Olish Newman.




Nebadon Izumi a écrit :
> Olish,
>
>     I think the problem is that some older hardware will never be able 
> to support it regardless of the changes we make, some older routers 
> just dont handle UDP and port forwarding well, most residential 
> routers and ISPs were not designed to host Enterprise level 
> applications.  The easy answer to the solution is aquire a new router, 
> most new routers are more than capable of hosting OpenSIM regions from 
> ones home and broadband connections.
>
> Nebadon
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Olish Newman <olish at newworldgrid.com 
> <mailto:olish at newworldgrid.com>> wrote:
>
>     Stefan,
>
>     Thanks for the precisions.
>
>     I hope in the future everybody will be able to host their region
>     without
>     such complications.
>
>     Would be possible to do such a change in the OpenSim Grid server
>     without
>     too much impact on the rest of the code ?
>
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Olish Newman.
>
>
>
>     Stefan Andersson a écrit :
>     > Olish,
>     >
>     > Sorry if I was being unclear - I'm not saying you can't let people
>     > host at home - we do it, and there are several other grids that
>     do it
>     > too. I'm just saying that a percentage of people will have trouble
>     > with their home routers (around 30% or so of home non-power users it
>     > seems)
>     >
>     > Also, you can still have the region up for others to view (Since
>     it's
>     > visible from the outside) you just can't enter it yourself thru the
>     > grid server. Although this is impractical, it's not a
>     show-stopper so
>     > to speak. Especially not if they can access the region directly in
>     > some way, ie, not by logging in or teleporting into it via the grid,
>     > but directly, like in sandbox mode.
>     >
>     > We have solved this for the users that has this problem by letting
>     > people build locally, in a disconnected 'sandbox', then upload their
>     > region to our servers.
>     >
>     > Of course, there could be protocol changes devised to let the grid
>     > server return the local ip if the request comes from the external ip
>     > (ie, keep track of all LANs)
>     >
>     > Also, this is not an issue with standalone sims that have their own
>     > login server and do not teleport. There has been some work done
>     trying
>     > to devise a non-grid network of standalone sims.
>     >
>     > The Obvious JIRA would be to let the protocol send a full host name
>     > and port (or IP and port as a string) instead of a IP address in the
>     > form of a 32-bit int and a 16-bit int.
>     >
>     > That would let you let your viewers on your LAN to resolve the host
>     > name to a local IP, while letting external users resolve to the
>     > external IP.
>     >
>     > It's bloody amazing that they, in the year 2008, still seem to
>     use IP
>     > addresses in the form of an int.
>     >
>     > Best regards,
>     > Stefan Andersson
>     > Tribal Media AB
>     >
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>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >
>     > > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:02:41 +0200
>     > > From: olish at newworldgrid.com <mailto:olish at newworldgrid.com>
>     > > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>     <mailto:opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>     > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] A software to connect its own
>     region and
>     > TP in from locally...
>     > >
>     > > Hello Stefan,
>     > >
>     > > Thanks a lot for your help on this topic.
>     > >
>     > > I'm sad we cannot achieve this aim. It would have been
>     wonderful for
>     > > people to host their regions at home.
>     > >
>     > > Can we eventually think about some viewer changes ?
>     > > Do you think we could file a JIRA at this subject and would
>     Lindens
>     > take
>     > > it in account ? :s
>     > >
>     > > Kind regards,
>     > >
>     > > Olish Newman.
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