[Opensim-dev] A software to connect its own region and TP in from locally...

Lc lcc1967 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 20 13:44:58 UTC 2008


I'm sorry to desapoint you, but not all "private" router can do that, even
the recent one.
I got one 6 month ago and it can't do that and of course it was not written
in the box :/

Maybe it will be nice to make a list of known working router.


s.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Olish,
>
>     I think the problem is that some older hardware will never be able to
> support it regardless of the changes we make, some older routers just dont
> handle UDP and port forwarding well, most residential routers and ISPs were
> not designed to host Enterprise level applications.  The easy answer to the
> solution is aquire a new router, most new routers are more than capable of
> hosting OpenSIM regions from ones home and broadband connections.
>
> Nebadon
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Olish Newman <olish at newworldgrid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Stefan,
>>
>> Thanks for the precisions.
>>
>> I hope in the future everybody will be able to host their region without
>> such complications.
>>
>> Would be possible to do such a change in the OpenSim Grid server without
>> too much impact on the rest of the code ?
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Olish Newman.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stefan Andersson a écrit :
>> > Olish,
>> >
>> > Sorry if I was being unclear - I'm not saying you can't let people
>> > host at home - we do it, and there are several other grids that do it
>> > too. I'm just saying that a percentage of people will have trouble
>> > with their home routers (around 30% or so of home non-power users it
>> > seems)
>> >
>> > Also, you can still have the region up for others to view (Since it's
>> > visible from the outside) you just can't enter it yourself thru the
>> > grid server. Although this is impractical, it's not a show-stopper so
>> > to speak. Especially not if they can access the region directly in
>> > some way, ie, not by logging in or teleporting into it via the grid,
>> > but directly, like in sandbox mode.
>> >
>> > We have solved this for the users that has this problem by letting
>> > people build locally, in a disconnected 'sandbox', then upload their
>> > region to our servers.
>> >
>> > Of course, there could be protocol changes devised to let the grid
>> > server return the local ip if the request comes from the external ip
>> > (ie, keep track of all LANs)
>> >
>> > Also, this is not an issue with standalone sims that have their own
>> > login server and do not teleport. There has been some work done trying
>> > to devise a non-grid network of standalone sims.
>> >
>> > The Obvious JIRA would be to let the protocol send a full host name
>> > and port (or IP and port as a string) instead of a IP address in the
>> > form of a 32-bit int and a 16-bit int.
>> >
>> > That would let you let your viewers on your LAN to resolve the host
>> > name to a local IP, while letting external users resolve to the
>> > external IP.
>> >
>> > It's bloody amazing that they, in the year 2008, still seem to use IP
>> > addresses in the form of an int.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Stefan Andersson
>> > Tribal Media AB
>> >
>> > Join the 3d web revolution : http://tribalnet.se/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:02:41 +0200
>> > > From: olish at newworldgrid.com
>> > > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>> > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] A software to connect its own region and
>> > TP in from locally...
>> > >
>> > > Hello Stefan,
>> > >
>> > > Thanks a lot for your help on this topic.
>> > >
>> > > I'm sad we cannot achieve this aim. It would have been wonderful for
>> > > people to host their regions at home.
>> > >
>> > > Can we eventually think about some viewer changes ?
>> > > Do you think we could file a JIRA at this subject and would Lindens
>> > take
>> > > it in account ? :s
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > > Olish Newman.
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