[Opensim-dev] future rexviewer merger

[Paul Fishwick]

Hi Jani
  I look forward to all of this, and glad that we are continuing this
cross-communication between platforms.
-p

Jani Pirkola wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Good idea to involve Opensim-dev, since they might have better ideas. 
> I suppose Adam Frisby has already thought how or if to integrate 
> avatar storage to Opensim.
>
> One reason for avatar appearance (or agent domain) handling being at 
> the same place with the opensim is because in SL this was so. When we 
> move towards free 3D Internet (free as libre), then we need to be able 
> to take our avatar with us from grid to grid. This means that a grid 
> must accept foreign agent domains - and eventually someone would like 
> to run just the avatar service.
>
> Best regards,
> Jani
>
> 2008/12/5 Paul Fishwick <metaphorz at gmail.com <mailto:metaphorz at gmail.com>>
>
>     I am resending this since i think I sent a message from the wrong
>     email account...
>
>     ..........
>
>     Jani
>      I confess to not knowing the details of the rex viewer source, so
>     please take
>     my comments in that light. However, to me, it would seem more
>     logical to
>     evolve the already existing UGAIM+R services of OpenSim rather than
>     inventing a separate way of handling region and user services. I
>     feel that
>     we may need more discussion with the opensim developers (which is
>     why I am cc'ing them).  If I am missing something in the logic of
>     your revised
>     Rex viewer implementation strategy, please let me know, and thank your
>     team again for its excellent viewer capabilities.
>     In summary, if there is something about the way that opensim handles
>     avatars or authentication, then suggest fixes to this via
>     opensim-dev. Yes?
>     If the DB schema(s) need to change, then suggest changes or add new
>     tables.
>     -paul
>
>     Jani Pirkola wrote:
>     > Exactly, that is what we will do. However some of the services
>     need to be able to run separately from the region or opensim
>     server. The best example of this is the avatar storage and user
>     authentication, which we feel needs to be its own entity.
>     >
>     > Jani
>     >
>     > 2008/12/5 Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu
>     <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu> <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu
>     <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>>>
>     >
>     >     Presumably, the "services" aspect can be worked out as a
>     region module
>     >     for opensim? Either that, or the rex team would work with
>     the opensim
>     >     team on the opensim trunk to extend its service capabilities
>     to be
>     >     more
>     >     consistent with rexviewer. That way, developers or users are
>     free
>     >     to update or
>     >     re-build opensim whenever it suits them, and rexviewer would
>     still
>     >     function.
>     >     -p
>     >
>     >
>     >     Antti Ilomäki wrote:
>     >
>     >         Actually that's not exactly the case, viewer
>     modifications are
>     >         important to us, but the avatar portability service (and
>     >         participating
>     >         in world server development as well) is another central
>     feature we
>     >         have. Our system currently allows full avatar
>     portability between
>     >         different worlds and even the inventory works, at least
>     to an
>     >         extent.
>     >
>     >         2008/12/5 Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu
>     <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>
>     >         <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu
>     <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>>>:
>     >
>     >             I could be wrong, but i thought the point was to
>     make Rex
>     >             purely
>     >             a visual client (viewer) and to let OpenSim handle the
>     >             services?
>     >             -paul
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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