[Opensim-users] Problem with tp to one of my var regions

Fri Aug 11 19:33:05 UTC 2017

Ok
	On console do "land show"
	See if values make sense.
	If not take note of relevant settings and do land clear and restore the settings.
	Again, im only guessing, can be something else
Ubit

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From: opensim-users-bounces at opensimulator.org [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at opensimulator.org] On Behalf Of tringate at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 17:15
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Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Problem with tp to one of my var regions

Ubit,

I am not clear on what you are suggesting.  I really can't use the old OAR any longer because there has been a fair amount of work done on the region as a var.  It has been running for about a month as a var and I do nightly backups of making a new oar and doing a database backup.  The estate database is not combined with the region database, they are two different databases.  I did the join to the estate which is shared with the other regions running on this server and it picked it up right away without me having to type anything in.

I have made another 2 by 2 var doing the same thing from my home region "Sanctuary" which does not have this problem.  It was made with a slightly different offset because I put two regions together and they are centered in the 2 by 2 left to right but only shifted 50 meters into the center top to bottom so they would not overlap.  When I did Sanctuary I did them one at a time, and resized the parcel on the first merged region then added the second region which now did not overlap the first in it's parcel size.

On nudist Island there is only one region so I did not do anything with the parcel size since it does not overlap anything.

I could try making the entire var one single parcel, could that maybe be the cause of the negative position vectors?

I'm not clear on what you mean by a "master" and a join.  That sounds like you are talking about the parcel's and using the terrain join.  I will see if combining the two existing parcels into just one helps.

I could also do a load oar of last nights oar to see if that fixes the issue.  I have not tried doing either of those two things yet.  Something isn't right for sure.  I have not had any complaints from other users and I see the normal activity from both HG visitors and OSgrid visitors to the region.

The only complaint I have received about Nudist Island was from an HG visitor who said they thought the terrain textures were corrupt because they cleared their viewer cache and then the terrain textures did not look right anymore.  I do not understand that because I use the default terrain textures on most of my regions so I cleared my viewer cache and tried to see if it looked different.  It did not.  I asked a few of the other visitors and they said everything looked normal.  I suspect that was an issue with that particular visitor maybe just experiencing a slow load of the textures.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJLDuarte
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:22 AM
To: opensim-users at opensimulator.org
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Problem with tp to one of my var regions

Hi
Can only guess, but the load of the oar is something specific on that region.
The parcel information may be wrong.
Can you try creating a new one then join having the new one as "master"?
Ubit

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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 04:11
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Subject: [Opensim-users] Problem with tp to one of my var regions

I am experiencing a very strange problem trying to get to one of my var regions.  I run several and only one is giving me a very unusual problem.

If I login to the region using a direct login by region name I get to it just fine, but if I try to use the map or an LM the viewer closes because of a disconnect caused by a timeout from my opensim instance.

When I do arrive, I do not arrive at the landing point but rather I land at <128, 128, 22>

I have the landing point set in about land to be <211, 188, 24> I also have this in the region ini file:
DefaultLanding = <211,188,24>

The only thing I see that does not look right to me in the log file is the
following:
2017-08-10 21:49:37,432 DEBUG [SCENE]: Adding new child scene presence Slow Putzo 51ea2036-6c57-817f-7716-59dd5329f7f7 to scene Nudist Island at pos <-339.1699, -208.8678, 22.1281>, tpflags: Default 2017-08-10 21:51:38,751 WARN  [LLUDPSERVER]: No packets received from root agent of Slow Putzo for 60000ms in Nudist Island.  Disconnecting.
Notice the negative coordinates in the pos.  How can the coordinates be a negative number?  This is a 2 by 2 var, but all the LM’s for it show positive coordinates.

The direct login entry looks like this:
2017-08-10 21:57:32,548 DEBUG [SCENE]: Adding new child scene presence Slow Putzo 51ea2036-6c57-817f-7716-59dd5329f7f7 to scene Nudist Island at pos <128, 128, 0>, tpflags: ViaLogin, ViaRegionID

Things I have tried:
Several different versions of opensim including the latest released by OSgrid.
Moving the region to one of my other servers (made no difference at all) Purged the region from OSgrid using the web site. (made no difference at
all) Tried a different viewer. (made no difference) go to LBSA and use the map to go to this region. (almost works) go to LBSA and use a failing LM to go to this region. (almost works) 2017-08-10 22:28:59,723 DEBUG [SCENE]: 
Adding new child scene presence Slow Putzo
51ea2036-6c57-817f-7716-59dd5329f7f7 to scene Nudist Island at pos <211.39, 187.4122, 23.76056>, tpflags: SetLastToTarget, ViaLandmark 2017-08-10
22:33:06,207 WARN  [LLUDPSERVER]: No packets received from root agent of Slow Putzo for 60000ms in Nudist Island.  Disconnecting.
Now before you say something is wrong with my local network, I run several regions.  I have verified the settings in their ini files and this one problem region is identical, other than the port number.
Other regions running on the exact same server do not have this problem.

I presently run my home region on my bandit1 server and I run TSim 1 and Nudist Island on my bandit2 server.

I am able to tp back and forth from my home region to TSim 1 all day with only an occasional issue, but I am not able to tp back and forth to Nudist Island from my home region at all.

The paths are identical between the two examples and the only difference is the port numbers of the two regions.  They are even running identical opensim versions.

I have looked over the different ini files and can see no differences other than things that should be different like the size parameters in the region.ini file and the name and uuid etc.

What could possible be causing this issue?  What configuration file or other parameter could be causing this?

At first I thought it might be some strange loopback issue, but I am running a supported router which supports NAT loopback, the Linksys WRT1200AC V2. 
It has been running now for almost a year.  Just to be sure, I did a hard reset to factory defaults and completely reconfigured it from scratch.  That made no difference.

This problem showed up shortly after I converted Nudist Island from a standard region to become a 2 by 2 VAR with the original region placed at an offset to be the center of the 2 by 2 new region.  Initially after the change everything was fine as best I remember.

The load oar I used was:
load oar
/backup/OSG-Nudist-Island/OAR/Nudist-Island_20170617-1443.oar --displacement "<128,128,0>" --merge --force-terrain --force-parcels

I am reasonably convinced the problem is caused by the negative position coordinate's.  Where do these come from?  My server, or an OSgrid server?

I am out of ideas and sure could use some new ones to hunt down.
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