[Opensim-users] HG visitors will loose ownership on their HG obtained objects if a foreign grid is reinitialised from IARs/OARs?

Mike Chase mike.chase at alternatemetaverse.com
Fri Jan 10 20:50:57 UTC 2014


On 01/09/2014 03:19 PM, Serendipity Seraph wrote:
> The open metaverse seriously needs grid independent asset storage with
> replication, failover and scalability.  Another approach is to tie
> assets owned to the owner in some kind of per user cloud or local
> machine only backed storage.  Or at least have such as backups.    It
> is an interesting set of challenges - and opportunities.
>
Also identity.  Some of that was discussed in a standards effort a while
ago but it got derailed for lots of reason.  But yes I'd agree there is
room for providing parts of the overall infrastructure with trust
relationships defined between services.  Any hypergrid isn't that as its
implemented today.

Mike
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Ai Austin <ai.ai.austin at gmail.com
> <mailto:ai.ai.austin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     At 10:35 07/01/2014, Jeff Kelley wrote:
>
>         HG visitors will lose ownership on their objects (that happens
>         to me every time a friend zaps his grid).
>
>
>     I noticed this (very worrying) comment in a discussion on tidying
>     up growing asset data bases...
>
>     It will surely not be uncommon for grids to be tidied up,
>     reinitialized, restored or to disappear entirely.
>
>     It ought not to be the case that any objects obtained with
>     appropriate permission over a HG connection or visit can disappear
>     from a grid they are currently on. If that is the way it is
>     currently works we will have serious problems with builds
>     disappearing or getting broken.  Do HG transferred objects rely on
>     their continuing availability on the continuing availability and
>     access to the origination grid?  I certainly hope not... I would
>     expect a standa lonw copy that can exist independently to be
>     available on the destination grid forever independently of the
>     origination grid availability.
>
>     Can someone who knows the protocol comment and reassure us that
>     all is well in HG asset transfer land?  Maybe Diva could comment?
>      We can then report bugs in what is meant to happen if items are
>     disappearing for some users when the origination grid is changed
>     or lost.
>
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