[Opensim-users] trouble with new osgrid region
Justin Clark-Casey
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Mon Oct 14 23:05:52 UTC 2013
Hi Serendipity. You'll find some information on performance at [1]
[1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Performance
On 06/10/13 08:27, Serendipity Seraph wrote:
> I do notice that frame rate is a lot less variable run on a "real server", in this case a Mac Pro in my home office.
> But the VPS was tempting for its much higher network speed compared to my home 30 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up.
>
> I am curious what server sizes and set ups people generally find good enough for say up to 40 avatars on a region and up
> to 40K prims. The Mac Pro is overkill in memory and compute power but I wonder about bandwidth needed.
>
> - s
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> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Serendipity Seraph <seren.seraph at gmail.com <mailto:seren.seraph at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks James but..
>
> I know there are not multiple flavors. I only mentioned it for completeness.
>
> The main problem turned out to be that I had inadvertently forgot to open 9000 on my server. Silly me. I am amazed
> it worked at all. As soon as I did that and cleaned up some server mono installation issues, scripts worked just fine.
>
> I don't agree that you need "real servers" per se. Go play on Kitely if you don't believe cloud instances will
> work. In any case that discussion and set of opinions is neither here nor there. But it really isn't up to you
> as far as I know to say what kind of server is "supported". If it works and works well enough then it works, right?
>
> thanks again.
>
> - seren
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> On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:08 PM, James Stallings II wrote:
>
>> Hi Serendipity,
>>
>> Lets take some deep breaths and attempt to make some sense of these things.
>>
>> Firstly, there's no 'linux' flavor of opensim -- opensim is implemented in c# precisely so that the same source
>> code and the same binaries work equally well on all supported platforms. Or, at least that is the intention ;)
>>
>> Next:
>>
>> DNS vs IP addresses. If (and only if) your DNS entries for a given IP address are all right and proper, there's no
>> real reason they can't be used interchangeably in your config files. That being said, if the DNS entries for a
>> given IP address are *not* right and proper, trouble will ensue if you attempt using the DNS name instead of a
>> plain IP address.
>>
>> Now this message:
>>
>> "PUT http://mariaclaude.no-ip.org:9000/agent/544eab0f-01a9-5f8d-e0d9-de89e9ea46dd/ took 10000ms, 0ms writing,
>> {"message_type":"AgentPosition","region_handle":"10966528977991424","circuit_code":"0","agent_uuid":
>> 21:41:36 - [WEB UTIL]: ServiceOSD request 107
>> http://mariaclaude.no-ip.org:9000/agent/544eab0f-01a9-5f8d-e0d9-de89e9ea46dd/ PUT FAILED: The request timed out"
>>
>>
>> is not all that strange. It is typical of the formats opensim employs in exchanges with the viewer and other
>> regions when 'things are happening". What is surprising about it is that you are seeing it. What this message is
>> about is the (re)positioning or possibly the arrival of an avatar in the region. That avatar is originally logged
>> in from 'http://mariaclaude.no-ip.org:9000/'. Hypergrid? In any case, that it failed (and how it failed) is
>> telling of trouble with your networking. This trouble could actually be with the avatar as reflected in the
>> message; it might look something like this if the person closed the viewer before their jump completed.
>>
>> Given your level of experience and understanding, I'd say that this was one of 1) a transient network issue not of
>> your making or possibly 2) you fat-fingered one or more of the numbers in your IP address (it happens to the best
>> of us from time to time ;)
>>
>> If the case be the former, then you will know when it clears up without being fixed. If the latter, well, you'll
>> need to make some corrections to your configs.
>>
>> What I recommend is that you go through each of your config files, and standardize on IP addresses throughout your
>> configuration. This will provide you the opportunity to insure that each is correct, and eliminate any possibility
>> of DNS issues being the cause. One reason for configuring this way for production is that it eliminates the time
>> required to look up the IP address using the DNS system, which can sometimes be substantial under load.
>>
>> Concerning your scripting troubles, I'd suggest that you not even bother yourself with that until such time as
>> these other issues are settled, because if your region is failing in the general sense, there's no real
>> expectation that the particulars should be expected to work either.
>>
>> LASTLY:
>>
>> When it comes to opensims, VPS are bad, and are not supported configurations. You need real hardware under your
>> opensims. This is something you should see to as soon as possible.
>>
>>
>> Best of luck, and do let us know how it goes :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> James/Hiro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Serendipity Seraph <seren.seraph at gmail.com <mailto:seren.seraph at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> High. I pulled the latest linux osgrid opensimulator package and cranked it up on a new VPS. Something
>> appears to be very off. I have a static IP on the region and originally did not have a DNS pointing to it. I
>> don't know if that or something else got it confused but I see a couple of issues. The region did come up
>> fine on osgrid.
>>
>> First I see strange messages as if something things the region is at some other address. Like:
>> PUT http://mariaclaude.no-ip.org:9000/agent/544eab0f-01a9-5f8d-e0d9-de89e9ea46dd/ took 10000ms, 0ms writing,
>> {"message_type":"AgentPosition","region_handle":"10966528977991424","circuit_code":"0","agent_uuid":
>> 21:41:36 - [WEB UTIL]: ServiceOSD request 107
>> http://mariaclaude.no-ip.org:9000/agent/544eab0f-01a9-5f8d-e0d9-de89e9ea46dd/ PUT FAILED: The request timed out
>>
>> I have no ide who or what mariaclaude.no-ip.org <http://mariaclaude.no-ip.org/> may be but it is sure not me.
>> I did a ping and the address shown is not my IP address at all. I have since set my DNS for one of my
>> domains to point to this and changed it in my Region.ini but to no avail. Restart leaves it all the same.
>>
>> I also loaded an OAR from a kitely region to my region but that doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.
>>
>> The other and more serious problem is that I get errors every time I try to compile a script and no scripts
>> seem to want to run, at least not ones I build.
>>
>> If I right click and hit compile (both compile LSL and compile Mono give same problem) I get
>> (0,0) Error: [ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.TypeLoadException: A type load exception has occurred.
>>
>> HELP!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - seren
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