[Opensim-users] Griefer issue...

John Sheridan john at pseudospace.net
Tue Feb 26 02:22:59 UTC 2013


Well, it was worth a try.  Although I'd think that at least in the case 
of low level trouble makers and script kiddies some combination of 
blocking IP, MAC, and ID0 should be enough to keep them out.  Besides, 
if anything its really just another tool at our disposal to make it at 
least a little bit more difficult for them to get in.  :)
On 02/25/2013 09:16 PM, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
> the viewer could send a false uuid in place of the hard drive uuid 
> without necessarily modifying the hard drive
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM, John Sheridan <john at pseudospace.net 
> <mailto:john at pseudospace.net>> wrote:
>
>     I believe the viewer also adds in a third safe guard in
>     combination with IP / MAC address.  Long ago while tinkering
>     around with the viewer logins I remember seeing mentions of an ID0
>     floating around thats sent to the login service as part of the
>     login data packet.  If I understood correctly, this is supposedly
>     the UUID of the user's first hard drive - which in fact cannot be
>     changed without physically replacing the drive itself (see
>     http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Current_login_protocols).
>
>
>
>     On 02/25/2013 06:18 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
>
>         Yeah, I think like websites the only thing you can ultimately
>         do is ban by IP for a period.  Otherwise, they could always
>         just create a new account, change their MAC address, etc.  Of
>         course, they can change their IP too but this is the most hassle.
>
>         On 25/02/13 17:51, Sarge Misfit wrote:
>
>             Other than banning by IP or MAC address, I don't know.
>
>             On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM,
>             <opensiminfo at virtualrealmsgrid.com
>             <mailto:opensiminfo at virtualrealmsgrid.com>
>             <mailto:opensiminfo at virtualrealmsgrid.com
>             <mailto:opensiminfo at virtualrealmsgrid.com>>> wrote:
>
>                 I see there has been a post about this issue before.
>             My post here is two fold..   One is to apologize to the grids
>                 that have been victim to this and to request that
>             other grids do not restrict hypergrid access from my
>             grid.. Also
>                 to start a discussion about steps to prevent this in
>             the future..   I have been notified yesterday and this morning
>                 I have a griefer registering on the Virtual Realms
>             Grid then going to other grids to grieve them..  I have take
>                 steps to ensure this does not happen anymore..  I have
>             restricted new user creations to administrative approval till
>                 we have sort out a good practical preventive measure
>             on this type of abuse. And would like to extend an apology to
>                 any grid that have been a victim to this by any of the
>             grids users..  I will be looking at ways to prevent this from
>                 happening in the future..  To this end any suggestions
>             to help grids prevent this from happening would be welcomed..
>
>                 Thank you,
>                 Todd Davis
>                 Grid Administrator
>                 Virtual Realms Grid..
>
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