[Opensim-users] Touch to open by other users not working?

Dr Ramesh Ramloll r.ramloll at gmail.com
Sun Oct 28 23:34:54 UTC 2012 

Thanks Fleep. Yes just to confirm  "Wear clothing now"  does work in opensim.
R

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Fleep Tuque <fleep513 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure, I completely understand that, I work with students too so I definitely
> understand where you're coming from.  My last email was just trying to
> clarify if there is some confusion between the "open" and "buy contents"
> options, because they work differently based on who owns the prim and who
> has edit permissions on the prim.
>
> I _think_ for the use case you've described, where you will own the prim,
> and you want students to be able to simply left click on it to get the
> uniform items, then what you want is the "buy contents" option, not the
> "open" option.  Even though of course they won't actually be buying anything
> since you'll set the price to zero.
>
> Here's what you have to do to make that work:
>
> - In your opensim.ini file, go to the [Economy] section and make sure enable
> buying and selling for $0 is set to true (I think this is the default, but
> might want to double check).
>
> - Place the uniform items inside your prim, make sure all items are at least
> copyable.
>
> - Edit your container prim, in the General tab check the box to set the item
> for sale, set the price to $0.
>
> - Click the radio button under the sale price for "Contents" to sell the
> contents of the prim and not the prim itself.
>
> - In the lower left corner of the edit window, use the pull down menu to set
> When left-clicked: Buy Object
>
> Then when your student left clicks on the prim, it will open a window to
> automatically buy the contents of your prim.  I'm not sure the check box to
> "Wear clothing now" actually works in Opensim, but that's where it will show
> up for your users if it does work.  If not, the students will need to wear
> the items from their inventory.
>
> Give that a try and see if it behaves the way you were hoping.  =)
>
>
> - Chris/Fleep
>
>
> Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
> Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
> UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
> University of Cincinnati
> 406A Zimmer Hall
> 315 College Drive
> PO BOX 210088
> Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
> chris.collins at uc.edu
> (513) 556-3018
>
> http://ucsim.uc.edu
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll <r.ramloll at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> This is the use case: Students logs in, and need to wear uniform. They
>> are not Second Life users, don't want to buy anything, just wear the
>> uniform and proceed to do their task. After they do their thing, they
>> will never ever log into the environment again. Aim here is to go in,
>> do you stuff in a team and get out with minimal number of things to
>> learn etc...
>> While I understand that Second Life *expects* prior knowledge of a
>> certain kind which grew based on the trajectory of the environment, it
>> might not be helpful to project this expectation on the 'casual' user
>> because this usually leads to things that they need to learn before
>> they actually get to do things they need to (which I equate to user
>> interface noise).
>> Ramesh
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Fleep Tuque <fleep513 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I must be confused, as far as I know another user has NEVER been able to
>> > open a prim owned by someone else unless they have edit permissions on
>> > that
>> > user's items.  Why should they?  It's my prim, you shouldn't be able to
>> > open
>> > it unless you have edit privs on my stuff.  Unless of course you've
>> > bought a
>> > copy of the prim and you are now the owner yourself, THEN you should be
>> > able
>> > to open the prim.
>> >
>> > If you're trying to give that functionality to someone else when you are
>> > still the owner of the prim, are you perhaps confusing the combination
>> > of
>> > "setting a prim for sale + contents radio button + default touch action
>> > set
>> > to buy" with being able to open a prim? If the item is set for sale, to
>> > sell
>> > the contents, and the default touch action is set to buy the object,
>> > then
>> > when another user clicks on the prim, it opens the window to buy the
>> > item's
>> > contents.
>> >
>> > Sorry if this is confusing, but as far as I can tell in opensim 0.7.4,
>> > the
>> > "open" option functions exactly as expected.
>> >
>> > - Chris/Fleep
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
>> > Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
>> > UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
>> > University of Cincinnati
>> > 406A Zimmer Hall
>> > 315 College Drive
>> > PO BOX 210088
>> > Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
>> > chris.collins at uc.edu
>> > (513) 556-3018
>> >
>> > http://ucsim.uc.edu
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, James Hughes <jamesh at bluewallgroup.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OK, thanks. My dev grid is HG enabled and I see the same behavior. If I
>> >> edit the container prim with an alt I see wrong permissions. I asked
>> >> about
>> >> HG because some work was done recently to restrict import and export of
>> >> prims. So, I was wondering. Maybe I will get some time to look into
>> >> this
>> >> soon.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> -BlueWall
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10/28/2012 02:26 PM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi James,
>> >>> No they are not on HG enabled regions.
>> >>> Ramesh
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM, James
>> >>> Hughes<jamesh at bluewallgroup.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are these objects in HG enabled regions?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -BlueWall
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10/28/2012 08:21 AM, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks so much Garmin.  Now I know what I need to do to make things
>> >>>>> work. There must be a reason why these constraints were implemented,
>> >>>>> will try to find out. Right now, they look more like barriers to me,
>> >>>>> because now I have to find a way to friend casual users, or find out
>> >>>>> how to put them in groups.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:28 AM, GarminKawaguichi
>> >>>>> <garmin.kawaguichi at magalaxie.com>   wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> After a few tries:
>> >>>>>> Open has the same level of security as Edit
>> >>>>>> If an avatar wants to Edit/Open an object owned by yourself
>> >>>>>> - he must be your friend with the right "Friend can edit, delete or
>> >>>>>> take
>> >>>>>> objects" set in Contacts
>> >>>>>> or
>> >>>>>> - the object must be shared with a group and the avatar must have
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> same
>> >>>>>> group activated!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> GCI
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Le 28/10/2012 01:35, Dr Ramesh Ramloll a écrit :
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hello,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yes, I have set the 'click to:' drop down list to 'open'.
>> >>>>>>> Opensim version 0.7.4
>> >>>>>>> Works fine for me but not for others.
>> >>>>>>> Ramesh
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM, R.Gunther<rigun at rigutech.nl>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Have you set in edit under geberal the option
>> >>>>>>>> "when left clicked" to "open" ?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> It works fine for me that way with a pretty recent git version.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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