[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

[Melanie]

Hi Chris,

your grid and others like it are not where the concerns are. It is
very cumbersome to qualify each and every statement to apply only to
commercial/closed grids or commercial/copyrighted items when all
readers are aware that that case is the one being discussed.

This tool poses no threat to open grids and CC licensed content.

- Melanie

On 19/11/2012 23:37, Fleep Tuque wrote:
> I feel compelled to clarify that while some grids have a Terms of Service
> that forbids transfer of content off grid by anyone but the creator, that
> is certainly not the case for all grids.  I do not think I am the only one,
> in fact, I'd guess most small, personal use grids do not have a TOS, or,
> even if they do, most HG connected grids I have visited have a freebie area
> where they explicitly have items for visitors that are clearly intended to
> be taken off grid.
> 
> So making the statement "Transfer off the grid is not allowed" is simply
> not true.  Transfer off of SOME grids is not allowed.  Some (my guess is
> many) grids DO allow it.  I think what is unusual about FleepGrid as a use
> case is not that I allow transfer off grid, but that everything on my grid
> is CC licensed.  My guess is most typical small grids allow some but not
> all items to be transfered off grid.  But either way, it cannot be said
> that transfering items off of grids is universally forbidden.  Commercial
> and closed grids forbid it.  Many personal, open, or HG connected grids do
> not.
> 
> I think it's important to keep mentioning the different use cases of small,
> personal, independent grids and not just have everyone keep assuming and
> defaulting to the use cases of the large, commercial, or closed grids.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> - Chris/Fleep
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 19/11/2012 22:17, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>> >> If the items belong to the user. Purchased items do not belong tot
>> >> he user. They belong to the creator and continue to belong to the
>> >> creator, being licensed only for use on the one grid where they were
>> >> purchased (licensed). Allowing these items to travel is called
>> >> "copyright infringement", or, more often, "theft."
>> >>
>> > Whether this is theft or not really depends on how you define the term
>> > "distribution". Unfortunately I have not seen a single consistent
>> > definition of this term used, neither in the practical world nor in the
>> > legislation governing ip rights, especially in the context of the
>> internet.
>> >
>>
>> It's not about distribution. That is a whole other kettle of fish.
>>
>> > Whether copying an item I have licensed but not created from the personal
>> > inventory of one of my accounts to another is distribution, or merely
>> > moving from one personal storage location to another is very much at an
>> > open question which I doubt has no clear answer in any country.
>>
>> Transfer from one account to another on the same grid is governed by
>> the "no copy" permission. Transfer off the grid is not allowed. It
>> really is that simple but I'm really getting the impression that you
>> don't want to accept that. I understand you'd like reality to be
>> different and you'd like users to actually own their inventory
>> outright but that s simply not the case. Some TOS restrict items to
>> one grid only and don't allow download of items you have not
>> yourself created. If you download something you acquired from
>> someone else in one of those grids, it is theft. No matter what the
>> purpose of the download is.
>>
>> - Melanie
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